Understanding <Empire>'s raid suspension

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullshit, Colgate. You guys trained us relentlessly and have faced virtually no consequences. You guys often train on alts you don't care about and those characters get suspended - who cares? You can train on another alt next week. Now, finally, you guys have a raid suspension.

When was the last raid suspension <Empire> had?

if i wanted the opinion of someone that had been on the server for 6 months, i would have specifically said "someone with zero idea what they're talking about chime in please"

it has always been this way

it was this way when i was the underdog fighting nihilum

it's this way now that i'm leading the #1 guild

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When was the last raid suspension <Empire> had?

[Colgate]

a few months ago for cazic thule against azrael, azrael trained us, we trained back and killed CT, we got raid suspended because we got the raid mob

but you weren't playing here then

[Dango]

Colgate is upset like a little kid throwing a tantrum now he got caught... Word

[Doors]

Petitionquest ruins the game.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by vinnidel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the unpaid GM Sirken volunteers his own time (free of charge, i might add) to write up a nebulous ruling, and now you're demanding that he make another post clarifying the original? This player pool is so toxic, they never appreciate what these GMs (who make NO money) do. OP, if you don't like it here, you can just leave.

Ty Sirken, Moregan, Eunomia, et all for all that you do here (despite receiving NO compensation). I'm looking forward to your next stream-cast.

Nebulous rulings have plagued the servers since inception.

GMs like the attention the guild lawyers give them throughout the week otherwise they would shut it down years ago and prevent the lawyers from chatting, texting, emailing, skyping, and meeting them for drinks IRL, or buying soaps and confectionery while arguing their petitons.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

don't be fooled, it has always been skewed in favor of the losing crowd here

i.e. the guild that loses can train nonstop in a fight and suffer no guildwide penalty as long as they didn't kill the raid mob

if the winning guild trains? raid suspension

so don't train

[Colgate]

sirken's policy is literally contingent upon whether you win the raid mob after training

is it a good policy? i don't think so at all, but he does it because he wants there to be an "opposing faction"

this is why lite hasn't been banned yet; he believes the server is better off with an enemy leader, even if they constantly break the rules

and i accepted that reality a long time ago when it benefitted me, i still accept it when it benefits the underdog guild(s)

[SamwiseRed]

tbh i say fuck it, legalize training so we can deal with it ourselves. sucks being on the side that follows the rules. nice guys finish last here unless you have fraps from 22 different angles in 1080 HD. like the big KC fight when every giant in DL was being trained to KC over and over by bestow. love the kid sometimes but being able to do that BS on a throwaway account without worry is bs.

[Colgate]

both guilds have people who train at pretty much every single large engagement

it's the nature of everquest

that being said, i don't think training should be legalized, i just think the staff needs to do a better job of enforcing the rule fairly and trying to actually have a presence here during fights