Beta is back up

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, according to camp rules you can hand off indefinitely, so his respawn isn't really important.

Didn't matter. Charm him, do quest text, gate out. Then whoever was camping him had their mob to kill as they wanted with no real interference from me.

Unless you're going to petition my charming a green con mob for 5 seconds as interfering with your camp. Lolololol

If they are set to Beta Neutral and Invulnerable that works, so that everyone can do the quest. Or leave them as their normal factions and just require charming / sneaking to do the quest.

It appears they've opted the Invulnerable route and that'll work!

[Oleris]

btw, thanks for bringing the server back up. I got a batphone the minute it came up for a raid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Haynar]

Maybe if we make him invul, then dont allow sneak questing. That can be done with making him see thru sneak. Make that faction grind required while he is invul.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe if we make him invul, then dont allow sneak questing. That can be done with making him see thru sneak. Make that faction grind required while he is invul.

Well currently if he is factionless and invulnerable, all players start with the same indifferent faction. Which is sufficient for everyone to do the CS Key Quest. Negating any need to sneak or grind faction.

[Rogean]

When velious released on everquest live it did not require the key to zone into cobalt scar for the first month. It was a bug at the time and they fixed it, but by then plenty of people had the key. If we made the quest mobs killable, a single guild would have uncontested access to western wastes, temple of veeshan, etc for the respawn duration of that mob (Several hours at minimum I believe). That would be bad.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When velious released on everquest live it did not require the key to zone into cobalt scar for the first month. It was a bug at the time and they fixed it, but by then plenty of people had the key. If we made the quest mobs killable, a single guild would have uncontested access to western wastes, temple of veeshan, etc for the respawn duration of that mob (Several hours at minimum I believe). That would be bad.

Weren't you going to replicate that bug so people can access the content and alleviate the bottle neck at the same time? Sound like a bunch of not-classic solutions to fix a problem when, historically, the classic "bug" is probably the best option.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weren't you going to replicate that bug so people can access the content and alleviate the bottle neck at the same time? Sound like a bunch of not-classic solutions to fix a problem when, historically, the classic "bug" is probably the best option.

We have systems already developed that allow for npcs to dynamically change when needed. We do not have a system for dynamic timeline clicking of keys on objects.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When velious released on everquest live it did not require the key to zone into cobalt scar for the first month. It was a bug at the time and they fixed it, but by then plenty of people had the key. If we made the quest mobs killable, a single guild would have uncontested access to western wastes, temple of veeshan, etc for the respawn duration of that mob (Several hours at minimum I believe). That would be bad.

Ah I gotcha.

Well he is a 20min respawn (atleast he was first week of beta). So that wouldn't be too horrible. Plus you could just charm him have your group/guild all say their trigger phrase in 30 seconds, and break charm allowing whoever is camping him to kill him and continue on their camping of him while those players who did the trigger phrase complete the quest.

However, setting him as invulnerable and indifferent is a decent solution and encourages questing/prevents cockblocking.

I was just hoping to get clarification on it because he went from KoS to Invulnerable a few patches ago without any mention of why. This makes sense though.

[Haynar]

But I am a jerk. I want to force cov faction grinding!!!!

Ok. Maybe not. But was an idea.

H

[Nuggie]

If ziglark is going to launch this way then please add something to the giant in KD that is the other half of the quest. Doing the turn in with the giant and then keeping him killed will be just as effective a block to other guilds. Thanks for your consideration.