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Old 07-24-2015, 11:32 AM
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I think you're over estimating how much mana your typical cleric will gain in Velious and how quickly they will gain it. From my viewings of Ragefire - although limited - the clerics used are typically Alts, not mains. I don't see these characters making huge Hp/mana gains in Velious.

Manastone is a viable alternative but a little more dangerous and tedious than clicking an item every 20 seconds for a few minutes. It just gets a little harder, and maybe encourages you use a 3rd player.

Donal nerf will be just one factor of why Ragefire may suck a little less. More things to do in Velious, especially to start off, when its new, will open up time for more casual clerics to get ragefires I think/hope.
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Old 07-24-2015, 11:41 AM
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I think you're over estimating how much mana your typical cleric will gain in Velious and how quickly they will gain it. From my viewings of Ragefire - although limited - the clerics used are typically Alts, not mains. I don't see these characters making huge Hp/mana gains in Velious.

Manastone is a viable alternative but a little more dangerous and tedious than clicking an item every 20 seconds for a few minutes. It just gets a little harder, and maybe encourages you use a 3rd player.

Donal nerf will be just one factor of why Ragefire may suck a little less. More things to do in Velious, especially to start off, when its new, will open up time for more casual clerics to get ragefires I think/hope.
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Old 07-25-2015, 07:49 PM
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Thanks for the information, guys. Clears things up quite a bit
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Old 07-25-2015, 09:48 PM
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I've seen a cleric use a manastone in Kunark gear. An alt cleric, using manastone. He barely did it, and he definitely had skill, but it is doable in Kunark gear. Once he gets his plate cycle armor and the monk picks up a few huge AC upgrades? Skill requirement will plummet to be able to manastone kill it.

No Donals bp on this cleric, no VP gear. Maybe had Chardok gauntlets but thats about it.
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:29 AM
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I think the timeline will be about 3 months into Velious for epic revamps?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010314.html
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:51 AM
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I think the timeline will be about 3 months into Velious for epic revamps?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010314.html
Cleric revamps (skyfire shards) did not happen until Luclin.
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Old 08-02-2015, 01:22 AM
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Man that sucks then. Would have solved a lot of problems with that particular bottleneck.

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Apparently it was about 2 months into Luclin.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020123.html
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Old 09-16-2015, 10:14 PM
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Worst news (for me) ever. I was anticipating this change. I pretty much stopped playing after witnessing the ragefire situation. Came back today to check on this. Thanks for clearing it up. Sucks.

My cleric only lacks chardok/ragefire. My guild members at the time was buying hearts for like 30k. This change missed the mark by like 54 days.
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