SK vs Monk?

[digitz80]

Thanks for the replies all.

How does sneak work with monk pulling?

[Troxx]

Block is what pushes monks above and beyond what the plate tanks can achieve at baseline (i.e. Not a warrior under discipline).

[Sage Truthbearer]

Block is just the Monk version of parry.

The problem is that block is about 3 times better at avoiding attacks than parry is.

Here is one parse that put block at ~10% and parry at 3%.

Monks are op.

[Lojik]

Monk just gets so many advantages in this time line, I think of them as the only true hybrid (able to fill multiple roles.)
Great dps
Great mitigation
Great itemization at all levels, low end, high end, and BiS
Great skills
Good disciplines
Decent hitpoints: higher than all but 3 classes no? Could be wrong here
Low ac gear, but ac bonus
Great complements: sneak+fd+eye+stonestance, mend+fungi+mitigation+high bind wound skill

They are also self sufficient, complement other classes well, and stack well with others of same class-type: meaning having one monk already doesn't really diminish the role of a class that fills the same role as the monk.

[isoka]

Originally Posted by digitz80 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the replies all.

How does sneak work with monk pulling?

Ok, so you pulled a large number of mobs. If they are over level 30, FD doesn't 100% memblur them, which means that if you stand up, some will keep chasing you and might re-agro those which were blurred making it difficult to lose agro on your whole train.

When FD, use sneak till it works (to know it worked, just wait for cooldown to elapse. If sneak is still activated, it worked. If not, you will have the opportunity to re-use it).

When you stand up while sneak is active, any monster turning its back to you will be memblurred. Those facing you and which still have agro on you will start running to you.

Also, throwing a shuriken / hammer / jav etc won't break sneak anymore, meaning that if you memblurred the whole train (i.e they are all pathing back away from you), you can still tag the closest one without re-aggroing the others since sneak won't break.

[jolanar]

The main difference, IMO, between a SK and a Monk is not really what they can do, but what the group/raids expects them to do.

[Spyder73]

Monk tanking is really not viable unless you have a shaman/chanter slowing. If you do, then they are like the best tanks ever

[Raev]

I think only Warriors can really tank unslowed stuff

[Raev]

Not tank swapping is pretty mind boggling IMO. Defensive discipline doubles the interval of the CH chain, so you can probably fight 2-2.5x longer. But I suppose things like strategy don't matter on either Project 1999 server when the average raid guild fields 80 for content designed for 40.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not tank swapping is pretty mind boggling IMO. Defensive discipline doubles the interval of the CH chain, so you can probably fight 2-2.5x longer. But I suppose things like strategy don't matter on either Project 1999 server when the average raid guild fields 80 for content designed for 40.

I'm pretty sure AoW wasn't designed for 40 -nor a majority of Ntov Dragons where guilds historically cleared to their target instead of train pulling to a pre designated safe spot.