Detailed (Real) Class Descriptions

[Versus]

Also, Dr4z3r forgot Monks on that list ;(

[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, Dr4z3r forgot Monks on that list ;(

Ooooooooooops.

Monk:
Classic: High (pulling)
Kunark: Same
Velious: Same

[garyogburn]

I played a mage, and while in classic they are powerful, they become pretty useless later on when things actually hit hard. Without their pet, theyre useless and become a sitting duck, completely unable to defend themselves except by gating. Coth is a neat gimmick, but I always felt I wasnt contributing nearly as much as other classes.

I never did get the epic though. That would change things quite a bit.

[Chanus]

I think the problem with the Magician was when Fire Pet became a Wizard, and therefore couldn't tank everything in the game like before.

[garyogburn]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the problem with the Magician was when Fire Pet became a Wizard, and therefore couldn't tank everything in the game like before.

Its more of a design flaw imo. If a mage relies on aggro mechanics to survive, and we all know how those are in eq.

Mages should of gotten root, wore plate, something.

[Ponden]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogue
Classic: High (Low without a group)
Kunark: Better (new weapons)
Velious: Same

Classic: Lol
Kunark: Beast
Velious: Beast 2.0

[porigromus]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, this thread was de-railed pretty quickly. I think this might have been more useful, OP, if you'd just called people out to update the Wiki, rather than trying to gather it here. Just copy and past whatever's there, and (as with any opinion expressed on internet forums), people will be falling all over themselves to expand/edit it.

Also, this is going to be at least partially wrong (especially Velious stuff), but here's my basic recollection of roughly how relative power of the classes changed with the first 2 expansions:

Warrior
Classic: Low (aggro problems)
Kunark: Better (disciplines)
Velious: Better

Rogue
Classic: High (Low without a group)
Kunark: Better (new weapons)
Velious: Same

Bard
Classic: High (Lower in raids)
Kunark: Better (overhaste)
Velious: Same

Ranger:
Classic: Low (except Tracking raids)
Kunark: Better (itemization)
Velious: Better (itemization)

Shadowknight
Classic: High (Lower in raids)
Kunark: Worse (though not much)
Velious: Same

Paladin
Classic: High
Kunark: Worse (by attrition)
Velious: Same

Cleric
Classic: High (Low without a group)
Kunark: Same
Velious: Same

Shaman
Classic: High
Kunark: Better
Velious: Better

Druid
Classic: High
Kunark: Worse (rain spell)
Velious: Same

Magician
Classic: High
Kunark: Worse (by attrition)
Velious: Worse (by attrition)

Wizard
Classic: Medium
Kunark: Much Better (AoE grouping)
Velious: Same

Necromancer
Classic: High
Kunark: Worse (by attrition)
Velious: Worse (by attrition)

Enchanter
Classic: High (crack, soloing, crack)
Kunark: Same
Velious: Same

If you have some corrections to make (and I'm sure you do), please, just be specific about the what/how/when.

Thank you for trying to get this back on track! I agree, I should have tried this differently. I still want to thank everyone else as well for their input.

[Azimon]

Think you forgot monk :P

Anyways. Mages are far from useless in kunark, they could solo well, they just had to use their earth pet and throw a ds on it. Mages soloed very well all the way through kunark and velious and some in luclin, though they became shit for solo in planes of power. It's all about adaptation.

The mage epic is almost not worth mentioning, it's the hardest epic in the game and you wont see many with it.

[ukaking]

Mage epic is harder than warrior? =O

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by ukaking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mage epic is harder than warrior? =O

Yes.

Well, maybe not if you can't MQ the Wingblade.