Some people are truly sad.

[Kalamurv]

Honestly the loot was entirely secondary to this, it's the total disregard and lack of any semblance of common decency. It's people like this that are what's wrong with the world these days in my opinion.

[MagpieRockyl]

I'm gonna let the council handle this for now... Will check back tomorrow to make sure OP has learned

[d3r14k]

Originally Posted by MagpieRockyl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm gonna let the council handle this for now... Will check back tomorrow to make sure OP has learned

Spoiler alert: OP probably didn't learn

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Caiu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Siryado has been exiled by literally every raid guild in existence don't pay any mind to some washed up never-been lol.

Oh god the irony

[Teppler]

How long do you think others should wait after you wipe on King? How many times do you get to wipe before its moral to take camp? Let's say a duo wipes at King, would you give them time to get back? How long?

Recently I gave a crypt team some time to get back after they wiped. He was irate I would think about taking the camp at all while he was claiming crypt from ent. I explained, someone else could sign on, take the camp and neither of us would have any recourse. Guess what happened within the next 2 minutes. Another torpor shaman logged on and got claim to Hiero camp.

If you die at your camp, you lost it, tough luck. Everquest is a very unforgiving game and this is part of it. No one sheds a tear when I, or any other soloer wipes and another team is around to take the camp and they shouldn't.

Expecting to keep a camp after you wiped when others want it is selfish. Not the other way around.

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long do you think others should wait after you wipe on King? How many times do you get to wipe before its moral to take camp? Let's say a duo wipes at King, would you give them time to get back? How long?

As long as they need to get back and get pulling again.

That's not the right answer, but that's the answer of anyone who is a "nice guy".

Unfortunately on the blue server it's all about how much plat you can make per hour, "nice guys" don't get to sell things in EC.

[sereal]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long do you think others should wait after you wipe on King? How many times do you get to wipe before its moral to take camp? Let's say a duo wipes at King, would you give them time to get back? How long?

Recently I gave a crypt team some time to get back after they wiped. He was irate I would think about taking the camp at all while he was claiming crypt from ent. I explained, someone else could sign on, take the camp and neither of us would have any recourse. Guess what happened within the next 2 minutes. Another torpor shaman logged on and got claim to Hiero camp.

If you die at your camp, you lost it, tough luck. Everquest is a very unforgiving game and this is part of it. No one sheds a tear when I, or any other soloer wipes and another team is around to take the camp and they shouldn't.

Expecting to keep a camp after you wiped when others want it is selfish. Not the other way around.

Conversely hard line rules like this encourage training 'accidents' to take camp. Not everyone runs fraps 24/7 while camping non raid shit and even if they do it's not hard to cause totally 'random' trains.

I mean king is on constant lock down but it's also not like there is a lineup of groups sitting and waiting in line. Everyone talks about how cut throat LIVE was, but the server population was also wayyyyy higher, people were arguing over entrance trash, resources were limited.

P99 there is basically at any moment multiple PP camps folks can go to. Just relax guys, ask for a ETA and a heads up when they are leaving and farm elsewhere while you wait. If you think they can't handle the target give them a second shot.

Save the lawyer questing for raids and just play like EQ karma is real.

[natescraigslist]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long do you think others should wait after you wipe on King? How many times do you get to wipe before its moral to take camp? Let's say a duo wipes at King, would you give them time to get back? How long?

Recently I gave a crypt team some time to get back after they wiped. He was irate I would think about taking the camp at all while he was claiming crypt from ent. I explained, someone else could sign on, take the camp and neither of us would have any recourse. Guess what happened within the next 2 minutes. Another torpor shaman logged on and got claim to Hiero camp.

If you die at your camp, you lost it, tough luck. Everquest is a very unforgiving game and this is part of it. No one sheds a tear when I, or any other soloer wipes and another team is around to take the camp and they shouldn't.

Expecting to keep a camp after you wiped when others want it is selfish. Not the other way around.

b[oooooooom

[Dolalin]

Probably better off just FRAPSing this stuff and petitioning it. Sirken's word is all that matters. RnF is camped by drama trolls whose opinions are worth nothing (and I count myself among them).

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Caiu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Siryado has been exiled by literally every raid guild in existence don't pay any mind to some washed up never-been lol.

This guy speaks the truth. Siryado is a wannabe sirfloppin. One of the biggest douches this server has ever seen. Siryado has been kicked out of every guild he's been in. Including AM. He then was trying to sell "bans" of AM to other guilds for a while.... claimed he could petition and guarantee a ban if got the item of his choice off the mob of his choice if it was killed during the ban...... He's a real stand up guy. Grats a venerate on a great new member....