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[zaneosak]

Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you creating examples where the whole party is level 44 and the subject is level 39? How many people are not going to catch that / understand the implications / read your whole post and just read the synopsis and say "wow that sucks?

IMO all you're doing is compounding the "I don't want hybrids in my group" problem with your example... you should edit your example so everyone is the same level. You are trying to illustrate the difference a hybrid makes... right?

I only did that example because the reply that asked for it. I made it just to have fun with numbers, I think it actually proves the opposite in the 39 cleric examples. It has nothing to do with hybrids and shows that the 39 is getting the worst of it due to level more than anything.

The 39 example to me was a real world example because as a main cleric I would go to city of mist being 3-4 levels lower than others because I was able to now Complete Heal. Or a different example would be going to Sebilis much lower because I am a cleric. While I just got Heroic Bond, people let me come to Seb, even though 3-4 group members were 3-4 levels higher than me, I just felt good about being in a high lvl XP zone. I think its a fair example and was noted as "extreme".

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Now the all hybrid party is pretty extreme example. The hybrid's requiring more experience per level, plus all of them being 5 levels higher really compounds the problem. I think at the end of the day you just want to avoid taking on hybrids (or anyone really) that is many levels above you. And taking on a hybrid who are a few levels below your group won't significantly impact your group's experience.

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Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you creating examples where the whole party is level 44 and the subject is level 39? How many people are not going to catch that / understand the implications / read your whole post and just read the synopsis and say "wow that sucks?

IMO all you're doing is compounding the "I don't want hybrids in my group" problem with your example... you should edit your example so everyone is the same level. You are trying to illustrate the difference a hybrid makes... right?

Did you even read the post lol? The whole point was to see how bad the example could be in a "realistic" scenario. The reality is hybrid slice of the pie can be very large with level discrepancy.

I even provided an example where taking on a hybrid in your group who was higher level than the subject really didn't alter it that much at all.

[Verityn]

Just from playing around with it for a minute it does look like as long the hybrid classes in your group are a little bit lower level than the rest of the group then their affect on group exp isn't really that much.

In Wenai's middle example if you tune the bard down to level 41 then they are now taking almost the same share as the Enchanter with -10% exp penalty.

[Nagoya]

Doing god's work! pras.

I was actually thinking of doing something similar, with pie charts and shit, I'm glad I won't have to xD

Long story short, invite hybrids to your group, embrace the love peeps, don't be scared!

But yes, the hybrid should be lower level than the average of the group to lessen the impact, as much as possible, and an hybrid class should think about moving to a new camp spot slightly earlier than non-hybrids.

On the other hand and for the same reason, a class like rogue or warrior can stay a bit longer and be a bit above the average of the group without affecting the XP at all, and is probably a good idea for them.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Clerics get bummed at lv 39 for CH. If the cleric has balls of iron and great timing it leads to some pant wetting and uber mana efficient funs.