TLDR Brainstorming Red99's future and why Red is not Blue

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by pgerman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boxing wont solve anything, other than gankers running around with full buffs 100% of the time instead of 90% of the time.


Boxxing wont help lowbies in anyway, their groups will still get steamrolled all the same if they are dumb enough to level in unrest or mistmoore.

Yeah but if both sides are boxing a 49+ druid for instance....

or 2 of the new players do the same...

I completely hear you on gankers just cleric buffing themselves every time before they go out and the new "standard" for pvp becomes having buff bots. That is not a good thing.

[Mac Drettj]

ps pgerman is a nilly/azrael core trade account

bias w motive

[heartbrand]

Pgmernan is yiam who on occasion in classic played mafakka.

[HippoNipple]

LoZ sucked for me. I guess I got there late and maybe missed all the fun but I ended up trying to gear 3-4 characters of my own in a group of 3 guys that played consistently. Eventually I was too burnt out on PvE to gear all these damn characters for a low population server which probably came from others getting burnt out on the same type of crap.

Boxing makes PvE go quicker but it also doubles the amount of gearing you need to do at end game which is the biggest time sink. All of a sudden you need 2x the DKP while the only raiding guild only needs half the active players. If I was an active raider for the last 3 years and had 3+ BiS characters I would be for boxing, but for selfish reasons.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by pgerman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boxing wont solve anything, other than gankers running around with full buffs 100% of the time instead of 90% of the time.


Boxxing wont help lowbies in anyway, their groups will still get steamrolled all the same if they are dumb enough to level in unrest or mistmoore.

This would become the new PvP standard of course Heartbrand doesn't have a problem with this he plays this way already.

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To people against boxing [though some who claim to be box themselves], what is your suggestion then to make rolling on red99 more accessible? Do you not believe that the dearth of support classes leads to a difficult setting with which to create groups? Is your alternative "well pvp isn't as popular so oh well"?

i rolled a troll shaman about a week ago.

was able to find duo-trio in inno swamp(and lguk) lvl 1-10

went to CB, had no problems finding groups every time i logged in

went to unrest, found groups every time i logged in no problem

went to MM, found groups every time i logged in no problem

now lvl 32


don't think the server NEEDS boxing

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by no chewie dont [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hb would box a shm because being slowed helps ot hammer proc more reliably ehehehe GET IT

How the elite pvp lmfao

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i rolled a troll shaman about a week ago.

was able to find duo-trip in inno swamp(and lguk) lvl 1-10

went to CB, had no problems finding groups every time i logged in

went to unrest, found groups every time i logged in no problem

went to MM, found groups every time i logged in no problem

now lvl 32


don't think the server NEEDS boxing

pictures worth 1000 words

here's innothule, 2 other people both high levels chilling

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here's crushbone, lowbie melee with druid PLVL, might even be boixng

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upper guk 0 ppl

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lower guk 2 people grouped, draw your own conclusions

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2 people in unrest

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0 ppl in dagnor

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3 people in MM, one of whom was a high level camping HBC

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0 people in BB

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[Pikrib]

noon? wtf HB.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

noon? wtf HB.

the guy i was responding to said there's people to group with at any time