Why so many new guilds?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems there are a ton more guilds nowadays then there were on live.

99% sure you are misremembering. There were twice the players on live servers; no way there were fewer guilds (except maybe for the 1-player guilds you see on p99).

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

+1.

Also, from the perspective of the existing guilds, why add players? I know that The A-Team has a bit of a unique attitude there but BDA, Taken, AG, Europa etc already roll with 50. I would imagine at some point they would start restricting membership.

People come, people go. I don't really see too many guilds restricting membership.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

99% sure you are misremembering. There were twice the players on live servers; no way there were fewer guilds (except maybe for the 1-player guilds you see on p99).

There were twice the live players at any one time, but I bet the number of individuals who have logged on this server is at least triple that of any live server at any point during velious or before.

[myriverse]

Not enough new guilds.

And chances are, that for every guild you remember on live, there were 10 guilds you don't remember.

[errorlvlacro]

With the recent changes in raiding and the influx of a couple hundred people or so it's not surprise to me that people are coming in and wanting to create their own guilds on this newly found server of theirs. I think the influx of people recently are enough to explain where they are coming from or they are people wanting alts in a new guild possibly that are having more downtime then they'd like in their main guild?

[phacemeltar]

i really enjoyed my time in Verite. this was a small group of players that was recruiting new members based on small-group needs for guild runs. there was no requirement for alts to be in guild, only requirement was that you had to be active or your spot would be filled.

sadly, Soloist had to quit playing for one reason or another, but we had some really great times as a group.

i think this is a great idea for a guild, having it be objective-based as opposed to being a social-club. the only issue is some players outlevelling others, and eventually being unable to group together.

unfortunately i think a primary focus of most players on p99 is getting to lvl 60 so you can join TMO/FB/BDA/etc.. therefore the 1-54 grind is irrelevant

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Middle tier guilds come and go. Much of the time they take the same general pattern of initial recruitment with modest plans, followed by a taste of raiding, then wanting more and pushing more until they no longer resemble their original intent. Usually that's followed by internal turmoil and much of the core splitting away to one of the long-term established guilds with the rest of the guild breaking up 5 or 6 months later and the players drifting to other new guilds to begin the process anew.

I like a guild with no attendance policy, no DKP, and that's permanently happy to stick to second- or third-tier content. Such guilds are few and far between on P1999 since the great majority of established guilds are either high-end or wish they could be but can't really compete with the present top contenders. A couple of the newcomer guilds seem to suit me (for now) so I'll enjoy it for the time being and not worry about where things'll be 6 months hence.

Danth

Eh, that worked on live. There is no third tier content on p99. We've killed Maestro on pretty much every spawn for the last 5 years. And we'll continue to do so until hand starts dropping hands [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Danth]

Hi Heallun! I agree it's more problematic living in the lower tiers here than it was on Live, not necessarily due to the content though (I couldn't care less about what specific critters I do or don't fight) so much as because it feels as though a higher proportion of the player base here wants to see the high-end game. Hence lower-tier guilds on P99 seem to implode even more quickly than their Live equivalents tended to. I suspect a lot of folks on P99 didn't get to the top on Live and use P1999 to try to do the things they never got to do back in the day.

I can't fault them for that (we're all here for our own reasons), and can't complain either since I'm not willing to put forth the work of trying to run a guild myself (been there done that, hated it). Managed to do everything I've cared to do on P99 for Kunark in spite of the difficulties so it isn't so bad really. I'd prefer if I could find a modest-size guild of genuinely like-minded players, but if I don't, so be it.

Danth

[radditsu]

Rotation rotation rotation

[Bazia]

OP just cut to the chase and bitch about the fact that now there's a rotation people are forming guilds that will down the road expect uncontested raid loot