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Old 06-03-2014, 03:48 PM
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It'll get a lot easier with Velious.. no longer need Inny as the staff will drop off a mini (Magi ptasa/maestro etc I think) instead.
Hate Revamp will be a good year(probably 2) after Velious launch.

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Old 06-03-2014, 04:26 PM
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Hate Revamp will be a good year(probably 2) after Velious launch.

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Or 3 months. Cause awesome.
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Old 06-04-2014, 02:39 AM
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I would NOT recommend ANYONE on this server to even start one. I have a high level one and the only reason I have it is because in the beginning of this sever IF you were smart enough to make one they were OVER the top.
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Honestly, mages still seem over the top in the group/solo game (probably not raiding). A guildy just made a mage here and he's already level 31. He's been duoing with a cleric mostly, but they're leveling so ridiculously fast. He's gotten 9 levels in one day.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:40 AM
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what made mages become great on live? (honest question)
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:49 AM
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what made mages become great on live? (honest question)
Kunark hadn't been released yet. So that's what made them great.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:49 AM
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what made mages become great on live? (honest question)

From what I remember ....

/pet hold, suspended minion, PoP era pets were as good as epic, focus items, mounts and cannibalize pet going to OP levels. In PoP Mages would often have the top dps even on raid targets.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:02 PM
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From what I remember ....

/pet hold, suspended minion, PoP era pets were as good as epic, focus items, mounts and cannibalize pet going to OP levels. In PoP Mages would often have the top dps even on raid targets.
Not really. Wizards and Rangers crushed Magicians on parses.

Magicians became OP much later than PoP. When they got their Servant line which was a huge DPS pet which would pull aggro from your main pet, Pet Blocks (essentially it would prevent the next 7-9 melee hits or spells from connecting, whether they be 10 DMG or 50,000 DMG), Air Pet Stunning mobs 3+ max level (91 Air Pet would stun up to level 98). With that plus a Mercenary healer, magicians could solo most all group mobs. Their pets became better than many tanks (either under geared group tanks or just really stupid tanks who didn't cycle discs and AAs)
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:17 PM
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Also, in vanilla eq out of the box a pet will tank pretty well and better than a lot of player tanks until they got better gear. With kunark and better tank gear and weapons pets relative strength fell behind.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:38 PM
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Not really. Wizards and Rangers crushed Magicians on parses.

Magicians became OP much later than PoP. When they got their Servant line which was a huge DPS pet which would pull aggro from your main pet, Pet Blocks (essentially it would prevent the next 7-9 melee hits or spells from connecting, whether they be 10 DMG or 50,000 DMG), Air Pet Stunning mobs 3+ max level (91 Air Pet would stun up to level 98). With that plus a Mercenary healer, magicians could solo most all group mobs. Their pets became better than many tanks (either under geared group tanks or just really stupid tanks who didn't cycle discs and AAs)
Reading this almost makes me wish I played past GoD.
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Old 06-05-2014, 05:52 AM
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what made mages become great on live? (honest question)
Think they nuked harder than wizards in some expansions (4400ish in PoP if I recall), then adding in the most powerful pet just made them supreme.

Even on Live to this day, mage pet is better than tanks unless decked out in raid gear.

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Not really. Wizards and Rangers crushed Magicians on parses.
Magicians became OP much later than PoP.
Wizards never beat our mages or rangers in PoP era.
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