Monk Race/Twinkage...

[webrunner5]

You do realize that Iksar regen and Fungi regen stacks. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Iksar Monk or go home as they say.

[Doors]

On blue it really doesn't matter. PVE content is so trivial it's a joke. Iksar for min max, human for faster bare hand delay, faster leveling etc.

If you can afford the best twink gear or even a peace bringer and fungi leveling to 60 won't be hard at all.

[nicemace]

the only considerations when making a monk that is needed is this.

do you want optimal stats and to look cool.

or

do you want to look fucking bad ass when doing fly kicks and moving forward after starting the animation.

i think the answer is simple.

[Mordyth]

Originally Posted by Deckk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, to all of you monks out there... Is all of the hassle worth rolling an iksar? Humans are definitely more boring and less optimal, but it seems that the ease of travel, lack of town restrictions and the lesser xp penalty are a major bonus to going human.

Yes. I love my iksar monk. You can shop all over the place and getting faction for good cities is much easier than getting faction for evil cities. Dont need any training after like level 35, and you have heaps of time to get back for that. Plus, you'll want to kill in kunark anyhow, its better xp. Kill gobbos in WW for FV faction and you'll own 2/3 of kunark banks/shops

[Delvesh]

I struggled with this to and agree with that you should play what makes you happy and not get stuck on the min max crap.

Look at the regeneration chart linked above. Sub 50, which are your prime solo levels, the regeneration difference are not that big. It's only in your 50's and really 60 that regeneration comes into its own. And ull likely be grouping at those levels.

And at 60 ull have 2000-4000 hp. So every 3 seconds you will have a .5%-.25% of you hp regeneration advantage as an iksar. That is only helps in a really long pulling effort and with this servers FTE rules ull never bounce a boss around long enough for that to really matter that much.

Regardless if you can afford a fungi, the regeneration is a nice bonus but I don't think it's so class defining you should play an iksar if a human is what would make you happy.

That being said I like iksar monks so that's what I made. =)

[Sage Truthbearer]

The human flying kick animation is awesome. The iksar one is terrible.

Just saying.

[Spyder73]

40% Xp penalty is a kick to the nuts 55+. I have a 59 human monk and I'm glad I went human. You should be duoing anyways, not soloing, and then the hp regen doesn't mean anything.

[Sajan]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

40% Xp penalty is a kick to the nuts 55+. I have a 59 human monk and I'm glad I went human. You should be duoing anyways, not soloing, and then the hp regen doesn't mean anything.

The exp penalty only matters while leveling 1-59. After you hit 60 it is a non issue. HP regen is fairly significant anytime you're taking damage considering it's equivalent to having extra gear slots with raw HP in them. The longer the fight, the more extra HP you have. If you're soloing or duoing these fights will last longer and longer. The same can be said for going all STA at character creation. Before STA is maxed, it's like having a third Platinum Fire Wedding Ring equipped. I have leveled several Human monks on P99 during the Account Sales Era, and I finally play Iksar now that I know I'm in it for the long haul. I can honestly say I, personally, regret wasting my time with Humans when I would've been better off forgetting about that sweet custom dragon helm in Velious and rolling the master race.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by fiveeauxfour [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the difference between iksar and human standing regen is 8hp/tick at 60. That takes one minute to regen an additional 80hp for the iksar. With fungi and regrow, that 8hp/tick becomes a smaller % of a difference. 92hp/tick and 100hp/tick vs 1hp/tick and 9hp/tick. Still an 8hp/tick difference but it gets marginalized.

When a mob can hit you for 140dmg and double, that +8hp/tick will take a long time to feel the "advantage"

I think that advantage looks better in certain situations - if you accidentally pull half the 2nd floor in Hate and flop on 5% health, your regen bonus is going to help you recover that bit quicker.

I've got an iksar monk on red (53) and recently made a human monk on blue to test the difference... I think for the most part I'm not going to find any difference [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Era'viss]

Wanted to mention something that I confirmed last night. Nothing new, but didn't see this mentioned in the thread. If you are an Iksar monk and want to train at Freeport without faction grinding first, you can have a Druid cast Share Wolf Form on you while in West Freeport (zoning takes the buff away) allowing you to run past guards and train unmolested. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]