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Old 07-10-2015, 08:30 PM
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Thanks guys! Cheers Samoht that was very informative. I went for High Elf. I just need a Siryn Hair Hood to reach 200 cha currently on 187. Investing in some 5 ac 55 hp rings as i have a Cha surplace and some Gator arms. Only slot left to fill after that is range and cloak!
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:02 PM
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So the 200 Cha cap should that be aimed for unbuffed or at a value to take into consideration your first cha buff?
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Old 07-11-2015, 10:18 PM
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Do you know why 200 is the soft cap? Because you can reach the hard cap with a CHA buff. The buff is already taken into account. That's why it's a soft cap and not a hard cap.

Thank you for bolding my own post, though. I'm not sure I would have been able to explain why you were confused without it.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:06 PM
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Do you know why 200 is the soft cap? Because you can reach the hard cap with a CHA buff. The buff is already taken into account. That's why it's a soft cap and not a hard cap.
No, it's a soft cap because the benefit is reduced above the cap. For example, 200 is the soft cap for intelligence because you get 6 mana instead of 12 per point, and buffs have nothing to do with it. Also, while Propo did some tests showing that 200 charisma is far more effective than 100, no one really knows about 255 vs 200. It's quite possible that 200 is actually a hard cap.

In conclusion, whenever you think I'm confused, you should probably stop, take a deep breath, and figure out what you are doing wrong.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:10 PM
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No, it's a soft cap because the benefit is reduced above the cap. For example, 200 is the soft cap for intelligence because you get 6 mana instead of 12 per point, and buffs have nothing to do with it. Also, while Propo did some tests showing that 200 charisma is far more effective than 100, no one really knows about 255 vs 200. It's quite possible that 200 is actually a hard cap.

In conclusion, whenever you think I'm confused, you should probably stop, take a deep breath, and figure out what you are doing wrong.
Lots of assumptions, very little knowledge. You should probably stop typing now.
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Old 07-12-2015, 12:27 AM
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Lots of assumptions, very little knowledge. You should probably stop typing now.
This is funny because your post applies perfectly to itself.
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:34 AM
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no one really knows about 255 vs 200.
You said so yourself, moron.
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Old 07-12-2015, 12:19 AM
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HE if youre the kinda person to wear sweatpants or socks w/ sandles out in public.

DE if you have good taste.
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Old 07-12-2015, 01:40 AM
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I went full int with Loraen instead of charisma and it's not the end of the world: I still have 225 cha with self buffs
Oh, I see what you're doing. You fucked up your character stat points and now you're trying to pull a Cecily.

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I'd much rather have 200 int/255 cha than the reverse.
By the way, just a reminder.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:16 AM
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Exhaustive nerd trials and testing have shown negligible decreases in critical calm resists above the 200 CHA softcap. The main checks are Level then MR.

Roll Erudite, only 10 less CHA base, more INT, and far less "gay" of a race.
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