Calling all Charm Killing Pro's

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by SoekiWiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure about the rest but this is definitely inaccurate. I've done tons of kills without dealing any direct damage and they all yield exp.

That wasn't the question. The question was how much.

Please stop guessing :P

There are two different conversations here though: solo with a pet versus group with a pet. We all know some amount of player damage, allegedly >50%, is required to gain full exp when solo. The question of whether any damage is required in a group to either a) gain full exp, or b) gain any exp and have a lootable corpse is legitimate.

[Tuurin]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, I'm willing to wager a debuff wouldn't be enough - if there isn't at least 1 point of player-dealt damage then it will not only not give exp, but the corpse will poof as well - just as any NPC corpse does when an NPC slays an NPC. A damage shield on the pet wouldn't count as player damage either.

That's not accurate mate. I do it all of the time with my necro pet- not a charmed pet, but I think the mechanics are the same. Most common scenario is I'm pulling suit in WL and get jumped by a sifaye or panther, pet attacks the add and proceeds to kill him unaided while I continue with suit pull, dotting fearing etc. I'll eventually get a exp message (they are usually light blue/green exp at 56), faction hit, etc. even though I did nothing to the mob other than get hit. And yes, corpse is there to loot. Literally do it all of the time for some freebie panther skins and random drops from those pesky Tunare sycophants [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Granted I'm not getting a significant amount of experience, but it's at least enough to have a exp message. And definitely corpse doesn't poof.

[SoekiWiz]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are two different conversations here though: solo with a pet versus group with a pet. We all know some amount of player damage, allegedly >50%, is required to gain exp and have a lootable corpse when solo. The question of whether any damage is required in a group is legitimate.

I think I know what the questions were. I asked them.

Quit while you're ahead.

[waltjig]

If you are grouped, you get full exp for a kill regardless of the amount of damage your pet does. I soloed from 52-60 on my enchanter in HS, and at times I would group with a necro in basement while soloing west wing. This allowed both of our pets to do 100% of the damage on our respective mob while both getting full exp. We were far enough apart in the zone where we wouldn't share the exp either

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by SoekiWiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I know what the questions were. I asked them.

Quit while you're ahead.

Reread my original post please - it's been edited - and you could also stop being a complete dick while you're at it.

[SoekiWiz]

Originally Posted by waltjig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are grouped, you get full exp for a kill regardless of the amount of damage your pet does. I soloed from 52-60 on my enchanter in HS, and at times I would group with a necro in basement while soloing west wing. This allowed both of our pets to do 100% of the damage on our respective mob while getting full exp. We were far enough apart in the zone where we wouldn't get each others exp either

O_o

You. You're smart, you. I like this.

So the majority consensus is that, on the p99 server, which may be slightly different than live was,

1) Solo pet killing involves an exp penalty or not. 51% player direct damage dealt vs pet to avoid penalty. (Yes yes yes, we know, break pet kill both get exp, that wasn't the question, so stahp).

2) Grouping bypasses the exp penalty completely, with the check being whether the characters are in the zone. Player dealt direct damage is irrelevant.

I'll try to test it next time I'm kicking around.

Thank you everyone!

/Thread

Good day.

-Soeki

[SoekiWiz]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reread my original post please - it's been edited - and you could also stop being a complete dick while you're at it.

It's my thread and I'll dick it if I want to. Go be a little bitch in your own thread <3

I don't give a fuck what your original post said. You've contributed nothing but misinformation, and now tears.

F'kawf.

[paulgiamatti]

No, I've provided correct information. Sorry you're such a piece of shit that you're unwilling to at least read it, though.

[SoekiWiz]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I've provided correct information. Sorry you're such a piece of shit that you're unwilling to at least read it, though.

I SAID GOOD DAY

[Crawdad]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's right except when grouped, pet can do 100% of damage when grouped and you will get full exp, as jmc pointed out.

I've never tested without at least some sort of debuff or other effect being cast on the mob, so maybe if you literally do nothing you might not get exp. But as enchanter/cleric I just root, slow, and send pet, cleric heals, mob dies, we get full exp.

I think the issue here is that even if your pet does 100%, you still get the "You have gained Experience!" notice. I think someone needs to double check their Exp bar to make sure that this is actually the case. But I'm fairly certain my Exp bar does not move when my pet 100%s a mob.

That being said, I honestly don't know the last time I duo'd with my Ench and my partner didn't at least throw a low level DoT on the mob, so I could be mistaken. The takeaway from all this can be summed up as "Group up as a pet/charm class to avoid pet eatting your Exp."