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Old 01-18-2012, 02:21 PM
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:29 PM
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Failed delivery on GM promise.

Two sides being held accountable differently for the same crime.

There's a word that gets thrown around here under such circumstances, but I still appreciate Red99.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:34 PM
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If you honestly think I would just look the other way while a guild cheated or exploited then i don't know what to tell you beyond what i've already said.

Also if you are looking for a big fat public post of "WE REMOVED DRAGON LEWTZ" it's not going to be coming because that's not how we operate. I can tell you that we've been super busy lately and just because we haven't made it to that yet doesn't mean we aren't going to do it.


Thanks.
I dont think anyone is looking for any sort of apology Amelinda, I think what the issue seems to be is that Nihilum can post screenshots (Giving Rogean proof, along with the logs/ones he already has) showing they exploited the kills of quite a few dragons now and yet their reprocussions of a suspension (such as what we received) arent happening..

This puts a bad taste in the players on the servers mouth as to where what is punishable and what isnt? Are guilds to be punished for breaking server rules ONLY if witnessed by GMS on the spot? Or do proof/fraps logs warrant a different style of punishement. Or do they get punished seperately based upon however soandso feels like dealing with them at the time...

I am certainly not bashing anything You guys do for us because we play here for free... I just know that so far we can look at the facts....
My Guild was outted publicly across the server by Rogean for what we caused/did, Nihilium can post tons of Screenshots/give rogean them also with logs, and basically say "Hah" we slay dragons dogs... Thats how we roll to the community, with no reprocussions or at minimal a legitimate response from the powers that be, that their punishment will be similar and or dealt with.

I think thats all we are looking for... And seems to be the biggest bane of our server... Communication. (Someone, anyone to just write a 5 letter response) we are looking at it, and it will be dealty with fair and just...


Something along those lines, would ease alot of peoples minds in moving forward..
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kringe always come up big.. thanks bro

wish we were guilded together n pvping but i think selena/keto carrying over some shit that happened in WoW and black listed me from holocaust
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:41 PM
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as said by holo members in big smedys starwars time video, rogean does not give a fuck.

lol.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:43 PM
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I don't think you're going to get a statement that says "We will not punish exploiters unless we visually see it ourselves" because then everyone goes "Ah Ha, if I know the staff are asleep, I've got the quoted permission to use every exploit in the game. There are combinations of options available, Logs, Guides, etc. If they have enough internal evidence that they have a reasonable confirmation of an exploit, they'll act on it.

However, knowing this community, I don't blame them on not relying upon player supplied screenshots and logs because of the extremes people will go to doctor up evidence. They can only trust their own sources.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:44 PM
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Having shooped a few whoomps myself etcetc... yeah... right...
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:58 PM
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I don't think you're going to get a statement that says "We will not punish exploiters unless we visually see it ourselves" because then everyone goes "Ah Ha, if I know the staff are asleep, I've got the quoted permission to use every exploit in the game. There are combinations of options available, Logs, Guides, etc. If they have enough internal evidence that they have a reasonable confirmation of an exploit, they'll act on it.

However, knowing this community, I don't blame them on not relying upon player supplied screenshots and logs because of the extremes people will go to doctor up evidence. They can only trust their own sources.
I agree completely, however my rebuttal to that is this...Do you blame them for not relying on their own server logs?


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First Disclaimer: I have not read any posts in this thread since page 26.. I can not spend all day on these boards like some of you >_>

Having said that, I am looking into the vox kill.

Here is the encounter log:

http://www.project1999.org/p99/?Log&Srv=5&Enc=4963900

And here's some new screenshots that just came to light:

http://www.rogean.com/images/vox1.png
http://www.rogean.com/images/vox2.png
http://www.rogean.com/images/vox3.png
http://www.rogean.com/images/vox4.png

Looks like using a doorway to somehow exploit line if sight in a way that allows you to attack but avoid getting hit by AE's?

Want to explain this one Nihilum?
And or Rogeans own hand?
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:01 PM
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This puts a bad taste in the players on the servers mouth as to where what is punishable and what isnt? Are guilds to be punished for breaking server rules ONLY if witnessed by GMS on the spot? Or do proof/fraps logs warrant a different style of punishement. Or do they get punished seperately based upon however soandso feels like dealing with them at the time
Wait you mean I can't post random pictures and say people were exploiting to get them banned? Nonsense, please review this policy!!

Reality wise, GMs have to witness it because player base is extremely bias and any situation can be turned into an attack even though it is legit.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:02 PM
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Heartbrand posting SS's making himself look retarded?

What else is new.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:02 PM
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DUURRRR DID WE PULL TEH DRAGUNS?!!!?!
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