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Old 12-10-2012, 03:53 PM
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This goes for any expansion in my opinion.

Best group class - Enchanter
Best solo class - Necro
Best small group class - Shaman
Best money making class - Druid
Best low level powerleveling class - Druid
Best mid level powerleveling class - Monk
Best high level powerleveling class - Enchanter
Best puller - Monk
Best healer - Cleric
Best tank - Shadow Knight/Paladin
Best slower - Shaman
Best dps - Rogue
Best cc - Enchanter
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Best for me - Monk
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:12 PM
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Some people have listed necro as worst class in Velious, anyone care to explain why?
I've only got like 3 minutes, but I'll sum up why I listed them as that.

1) Twitch is incredibly inferior to mod rods stockpiles.
2) DoTs don't stack and are generally pretty weak until they changed extended affliction to burning affliction, allow them to stack, and change the duration while keeping the damage the same.
3) No real spell improvements from Kunark. Arch Lich doesnt get buffed above the 49 Lich until later.
4) Lure-based lifetap nuking isn't as significant as Kunark since mob HP jumps up so much.


Conjure Corpse Robe and being able to FD/rez is pretty good, but yeah - every other class has more use is the main reason.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:21 PM
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I've only got like 3 minutes, but I'll sum up why I listed them as that.

1) Twitch is incredibly inferior to mod rods stockpiles.
2) DoTs don't stack and are generally pretty weak until they changed extended affliction to burning affliction, allow them to stack, and change the duration while keeping the damage the same.
3) No real spell improvements from Kunark. Arch Lich doesnt get buffed above the 49 Lich until later.
4) Lure-based lifetap nuking isn't as significant as Kunark since mob HP jumps up so much.


Conjure Corpse Robe and being able to FD/rez is pretty good, but yeah - every other class has more use is the main reason.
Noooooo! I'm ruined come Velious (from the sounds of it at least)

Why the heck did I chose to main a necro. Best soloers my ass
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:18 PM
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Don't worry my friend. Necro's are indeed useful in Velious and fun to play. It's what you make of the class. I personally am looking forward playing an enchanter in Velious (even in the raid scene), and they are rated as taking a huge hit in vilability from Kunark to Velious. I rated them as the worst caster class myself lol. Every class can be enjoyed.

Necro's twitch plus mod rod will keep the CH chain alive and strong. Their dots should be effective against MR raid bosses. They are still solo masters as well.

If you enjoy him now chances are you'll enjoy him then.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:45 PM
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This goes for any expansion in my opinion.

Best group class - Enchanter
Best solo class - Necro
Best small group class - Shaman
Best money making class - Druid
Best low level powerleveling class - Druid
Best mid level powerleveling class - Monk
Best high level powerleveling class - Enchanter
Best puller - Monk
Best healer - Cleric
Best tank - Shadow Knight/Paladin
Best slower - Shaman
Best dps - Rogue
Best cc - Enchanter
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Best for me - Monk
Shaman/Enchanter are much better for soloing tough targets at end game, i guess it depends on if you're talking solo-leveling or farming.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:00 PM
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Stacking full buffs and SB/PoS Healing is actually pretty useful. Plus the one necro allowed to DoT can do ok damage. FD+Rez/Conjure Corpse is more important since dragging KoS people = aggro in many zones.

They aren't a useless class - they are just weaker than the others in Velious (imo). People's opinions are gonna vary based on how much weight they give to aspects of the game as well as their perception of the class.

Peronally, I think enchanters will actually be strong come Velious. For the most part, people on live didn't realize how strong charm was (or how to gameplan around charm breaks) until dire charm in SoL.

Aside from Sleepers Tomb, EToV, WToV, and Yelinak (from a practical standpoint at least) - there's decent to awesome pets for everything. NToV allows for pets since all the dragons are mobile to start.

I'm not entirely sure of how far charmed pet DPS will fall relative to players come Velious when raid mob level increases from 65 to 70 while optimal pets still hover around 46-51 (though, common mobs are off the standard 120 + 4*level max hit in Velious.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:09 PM
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Classic:
Best: Enchanter
Worst: Nothing really

Kunark:
Best: Shaman with puppet strings, otherwise Enchanter
Worst: Druid

Velious:
Best: Iksar Warrior
Worst: everyone else

Here is my problem with Druids: at 60 fights are just too long and mobs have too much HP for their nukes and heals to be effective. This puts the Druid squarely in the 'generalist' role and usually for a full group you can find another class that works better. For example, War/Mnk/Rog/Dru/Cle/Enc simply gets better when you swap the Druid for a Shaman, a Mage, or even a Necromancer. What Druids really need to be effective is a heal with a 4-5:1 HP/mana ratio and/or better mana regeneration so that they can at least pretend to be main healers in groups. Something like 1200 hp / 300 mana / 10 second cast time.

That said Ploktor is kind of in a class of his own with the Robe of the Spring and Puppet Strings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:19 PM
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Druid best class in all xpacs then bards. Worst class I dunno
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:41 PM
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All these mentions of enchanters when bards are plainly better in most group scenarios.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:07 PM
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All these mentions of enchanters when bards are plainly better in most group scenarios.
You're kidding, right?
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