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Originally Posted by Dreenk317
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You've contradicted yourself and tried to "un-admit" things. So forgive me if I don't believe everything you've said is 100% truth.
And @Skarlorn, I never said "I wash my hands of this".
Droog007 did however.
Maybe you got us confused.
He also said this:
He also posted this:
You do realize everything you say, even within the same post, contradicts everything you say right?
So I stand by my claim of you fucking suck at arguing.
And again @skarlorn, I sure as shit have not washed my hands of this. This person is telling complete lies trying to smear another guilds name because he got mad at them. I will not stand for it, especially when he contradicts himself, lies, throws his wife under the bus, claims to be an experienced player and a guild officer. And doesn't know that charming an engaged mob is a KS or that a mob belongs to the first person to engage it regardless of if it has an FTE message? I expect better from AG's members, I've been on this server a long time and never seen this sort of behavior from them.
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Good lord man, now you're defending my wife from her evil abusive husband? This is really the last time I'm going to respond to YOU. You have proven over and over again that you are unwilling to look at this through a clear lens. None of my statements are contradictory no matter how you may wish it were so.
I have posted logs as requested, and told you guys hit by hit what was going through our heads and what we saw on our screens to the absolute best of our collective memory. Let's see some logs from the other side that maybe prove Mana's claim that the gnoll was down to 20% when charm landed... someone's telling some tall tales in BG channels, eh?
I have played this game on and off since July of 1999. I was never in a top raiding guild or anything, but I learned a lot of stuff. I do feel pretty knowledgeable about the game of EQ. The way things go down on P99 still surprise me from time to time - I will grant you that.
Now, for the counterpoints:
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Originally Posted by Dreenk317
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Your first point says that she both didn't know what they were doing and thought she knew what they were doing.
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Can you read what you just typed? She didn't
know, but she had a
theory. Her theory proved incorrect after she got more information that was not immediately available to her in the first few seconds of the mob's lifetime at ~195 units.
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Your second point contradicts the third because you say she ducked her mez because she realized people were killing her target. Your third point claims that you see the mob taking damage and yet have no reason to think that she's been beaten to the punch? The mob was literally being punched at this moment...
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No, man. God. Tash is in, and now she knows people are meleeing it. She makes the wrong choice on the follow-up, and quickly changes course.
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Your fourth point basically admits to KS'ing via charm, and contradicts the third point claim of having no idea of she was beaten to the punch.
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Basically admits... you really want us to self-incriminate... just SO badly. That is not what she's saying. She is letting me know that we're being harassed rather than merely heckled. Tash was the spell she "FTE raced" (lol) with... TASH! NOT CHARM! TASH!
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Your fifth point doesn't help you either. I'm sorry but if a mob gets tashed by you and heads AWAY from you, you clearly did not get FTE as tash pulls a lot of agro and it definitely would not have chased after someone else unless they had purposely agreed said mob BEFORE your tash landed.
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I never said that the mob ran away from her after tash landed. I thought she said that it ran
toward her, but I can't be 100% certain of that. She said it was only after tash landed that she saw melee action. I think maybe she ran toward the mob after tash, which goes toward a previous poster's question about the 7s between tash and mez. None of this proves FTE for either party. From her vantage, she might have had FTE, and she wasn't even thinking she needed it. She was operating under the idea that we had a claim to that mob based on timeliness. Also, aggro is aggro. Distance plays a factor. The order in which chunks of aggro are applied - not so much. You're going to tell me that she should have known
immediately who had FTE while considering dozens of factors... who's throwing her under the bus, again?