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Old 08-12-2013, 01:54 PM
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Agree with Joroz.

If you need help with Cisco gear, let me know . I am a Cisco Junkie.

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Old 08-12-2013, 05:41 PM
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Agree with Joroz.

If you need help with Cisco gear, let me know . I am a Cisco Junkie.

Of course this will cost you the following :

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Just kidding man but I am serious about letting me know if you need any help with any network related project.
Same here, it's what I do for a living. Do yourself a favor and get Cisco over the HPs. Switch IOS upgrades are free as well so you can get 3rd party maintenance for really cheap if you care about that sort of thing.

You probably don't need the 2960S over the G model but the flexstack feature is awesome. I use it at all of my locations. It gives you 10 Gbps between switches and you don't tie up a port, plus a single management interface. You can only stack up to 3 with flexstack though.

I checked my inventory and I only have a single 2960S 24 port left. I have 3 more coming back the first week of next month and I could send you one, but unfortunately the earliest I can get it to you would be likely the 2nd week in September.

Rogean: I'll hit you up after I get the pile of stuff back from our 3 closed location to see if you have any needs at that time. Sounds like between between Winol and myself you have plenty of expertise on getting the configuration done.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:00 PM
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Akkadius has also been very helpful and offered his assistance with Cisco configurations. I just need to actually get a 2960G-24TS. (or 3750G)
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:29 PM
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Akkadius has also been very helpful and offered his assistance with Cisco configurations. I just need to actually get a 2960G-24TS. (or 3750G)
Yep, from what you've told me that would satisfy your needs. The 2900 series of switches is an access layer switch though, but will likely be fine for the kind of traffic I assume proj99 generates. The 3750-Xs can probably do as a access or distribution layer switch, not sure I'd run one as my core. Is this the only switch in the data center or are you running something bigger as a core switch?

The 3750 isn't really needed for what you're doing, unless you want to utilize the layer 3 features. You should always gateway through a L3 Cisco switch if it's possible to take advantage of CEF, so if you aren't doing that now (not sure what type of core switch you're running off of) I'd push for the 3750, but probably should aim for an E or X model. This is of course assuming you have multiple VLANs setup.

Hard to give advice though without knowing what you're doing though! I can say that in our Minneapolis data center we're all virtualized on HP enclosures with fiberchannel going into our core switch which sounds fairly similar to what you're doing. We are running a 4507 there as a core which is basically bare minimum in Cisco terms.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:45 PM
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:02 AM
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The switches are catalyst 3560G, not sure if that will work, 4 GBICs ports and 24 1Gbps port switches. Let me know, it's yours if you need them.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:55 AM
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The switches are catalyst 3560G, not sure if that will work, 4 GBICs ports and 24 1Gbps port switches. Let me know, it's yours if you need them.
Again, I will say that without knowing a lot of statistics on the traffic you're passing I can't say for this this will be good enough. Can you also post the full model# not just the 3560G part? There are v1's and v2's, different capabilities, etc within that same line.

The 3560G is a good unit, but there are a few things to consider:
1. This unit is EOL. If support is something you care about, that ends January of next year aside from security vulnerability patches which extend a few more years. But you wouldn't be able to get a part for it under a support contract.
2. The backplane speed of a 3560G is only 8.8 Gbps. That may or may not be important in the Project1999 environment.
3. Perhaps more importantly the 3560G has a 6.6 million packet per second max capacity. I imagine that in this environment there are lots of small transactions per second (i.e. database updates every time someone gains exp, loots something, etc). This may or may not be an issue.

Compare that to a 2960G for example and it has 32 Gbps throughput with 35.7 mpps.

This may be a huge dealbreaker or it may mean nothing at all, it depends on the environment, what this switch is being used for and the amount of traffic being passed.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:19 PM
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8.8 gbps and 6.6mpps seem like plenty to me.

If those are the only differences then I would say a 3560G would be great for what we need.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:24 PM
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Again, I will say that without knowing a lot of statistics on the traffic you're passing I can't say for this this will be good enough. Can you also post the full model# not just the 3560G part? There are v1's and v2's, different capabilities, etc within that same line.

The 3560G is a good unit, but there are a few things to consider:
1. This unit is EOL. If support is something you care about, that ends January of next year aside from security vulnerability patches which extend a few more years. But you wouldn't be able to get a part for it under a support contract.
2. The backplane speed of a 3560G is only 8.8 Gbps. That may or may not be important in the Project1999 environment.
3. Perhaps more importantly the 3560G has a 6.6 million packet per second max capacity. I imagine that in this environment there are lots of small transactions per second (i.e. database updates every time someone gains exp, loots something, etc). This may or may not be an issue.

Compare that to a 2960G for example and it has 32 Gbps throughput with 35.7 mpps.

This may be a huge dealbreaker or it may mean nothing at all, it depends on the environment, what this switch is being used for and the amount of traffic being passed.
Cisco WS-C3560G-24TS-S Media & Performance

Connectivity Media: Category 4 UTP 10Base-T
Connectivity Media: Category 3 UTP 10Base-T
Connectivity Media: Category 5 UTP 10/100/1000Base-T
Performance: 64Gbps Switching Fabric
Performance: 38.7Mpps Forwarding Rate for 64-byte Packet

specs taken from: http://www.usedcisco.com/cisco/WS-C3560G-24TS-S

looks like they're 64Gbps switches? The full model number is WS-C3560G-24TS-S V03
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:58 PM
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Cisco WS-C3560G-24TS-S Media & Performance

Connectivity Media: Category 4 UTP 10Base-T
Connectivity Media: Category 3 UTP 10Base-T
Connectivity Media: Category 5 UTP 10/100/1000Base-T
Performance: 64Gbps Switching Fabric
Performance: 38.7Mpps Forwarding Rate for 64-byte Packet

specs taken from: http://www.usedcisco.com/cisco/WS-C3560G-24TS-S

looks like they're 64Gbps switches? The full model number is WS-C3560G-24TS-S V03
My bad, I pulled specs from the 10/100 model. This would put it on par with the newer 2900 series model.
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