Game Mechanics: Pets, faction, and AFK leveling with near impunity.

[Kuldiin]

Originally Posted by Jete [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have no idea what would happen if you made pets indiff. Charm would become insanely OP- so im 100% for this. Fix Mages and Necros, make bards better! haha

You do realise that any change automatically breaks Bards right?(even when unrelated).

[Jify]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pet faction was classic and we implemented it as such. Whether or not it should be considered a legitimate way of leveling is a gray area. People on live did it all the time; members of the dev team did it on live.

During velious there was actually a single spawn in EW which spawned the same mob every time. If you parked your level 53 (?) Eart Pet on top of the spawn he would automatically engage and your pet could solo him and regen to full before the next fight. If you went AFK for almost a week you could hit level 60.

As far as should it be allowed on this server or not, I will leave that up to Nilbog as it is his call.

Not on this server! Our pets Regen the same lvl 4 through to 49! There will be none of this with that pet, unless regen is fixed. Consider it a afk-pet-killing-limiting-bug. 8(

[Jify]

Originally Posted by Kuldiin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realise that any change automatically breaks Bards right?(even when unrelated).

Oh, and bards are already broken! Can't swarm or AE dot kite (well, not to the same extent as live). Leave us be!

[Jete]

Originally Posted by Kuldiin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realise that any change automatically breaks Bards right?(even when unrelated).

Perhaps you haven't thought of it the way I have. Change my pet to my faction, I can now swarm kite with charm. Grats me taking down lvl 50 mobs in 4-10 seconds.

[Jify]

Originally Posted by Jete [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps you haven't thought of it the way I have. Change my pet to my faction, I can now swarm kite with charm. Grats me taking down lvl 50 mobs in 4-10 seconds.

Pet is your faction at the moment. Agro however, is bugged (or at least different from live). You "can't" pull agro with proximity after something already has agro. (which is why you can't train people with undead, or with SGs like Fansy did!)

I believe this is why swarm kiting does not work. (I fondly remember swarm kiting those spectres and just DESTROYING them in seconds.)

[Hasbinbad]

i thought fansy trained by dying on top of another group

[Finawin]

Nope, he trained by being lower than the allowed pvp limit (5 with selos) and 6 was when pvp was turned on.

So training SGs and not being able to be killed. FTW

[Jify]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i thought fansy trained by dying on top of another group

Nope, Fansy would pull giants with proxy agro. Then when he'd run over a group or person, the giants would switch targets because of that "proximity" agro. Same deal with undead, unless you had a fair bit of agro, you could train them over anyone in your path.

That's why as a bard, swarm kiting, you'd charm one, and make it attack. Any mob that you haven't casted on (which should be all of them except the charmed one) will turn around and pwn that single charmed mob because of proxy agro. Basically allowing bards to kill mobs like giants, specs, rockhoppers, etc,. extremely fast. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back in the day, you'd take all 8 specs at one time so you could be the most efficient. It's better to take 2-3 now. I'm finding it even quicker to just avoid charm all together and dot kite. =/