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Old 10-04-2010, 10:58 AM
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As a Druid on live from 2000 I was often ML (ports/SoW/strength buffs made being encumbered a lot easier) and would just have to write down at the beginning of a session what coins I started with so I could split at the end. Autosplit never downchanged, the looter always had the remainder after dividing each type of coin amongst the group.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:05 PM
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Autosplit didn't split money evenly. I don't know the exact formula, but generally the looter got the lion's share and everyone else got small change. If you didn't loot, you'd come out with like 3p 75g 400s 800c. Since most common mobs drop like 1p 5g 7s, everyone else got practically nothing.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:17 AM
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Seems like it is more broken now than it was before the change. /autosplit off
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:27 AM
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Seems like it is more broken now than it was before the change. /autosplit off
How so?
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:38 AM
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How so?
I posted a bit about it on another thread. From my perspective, it's not so much worth worrying about. I'll just turn split off. My regular partner and I share our plat pool anyway so it doesn't matter to me that we get an even split. I would have to do more extensive testing on it than I'm willing to put into such a non-issue but it seems like maybe some of the coin is being dropped in the split. Then again, maybe we just had really horrible luck.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:49 AM
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In the original game it didn't downconvert anything. I played a warrior most of live and the function hasn't changed. Essentially if a mob has 5pp 6gp 0sp 0cp the group would receive 1gp each while the looter would receive 5pp 1gp. It isn't so much an issue when mobs drop 6p+ in Sebilis and beyond. I imagine most people just turn auto split off and just try and be fair to their group. Making the system downconvert would only harm casters with low strength who would have to just destroy the silver and copper.
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:43 AM
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In the original game it didn't downconvert anything. I played a warrior most of live and the function hasn't changed. Essentially if a mob has 5pp 6gp 0sp 0cp the group would receive 1gp each while the looter would receive 5pp 1gp. It isn't so much an issue when mobs drop 6p+ in Sebilis and beyond. I imagine most people just turn auto split off and just try and be fair to their group. Making the system downconvert would only harm casters with low strength who would have to just destroy the silver and copper.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:36 AM
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Theres a fork in the road, do we create a P1999 system or not?

If not we spend a lot of time looking for evidence on how the live system worked, and I think that doesn't really makes sense in the labor to results ratio. I would rather the devs go insane working on other issues.

I would suggest we randomize the coin, for a six person group, with a 5pp drop 5 get a coin and one random person gets nothing. Just follow that scheme down the line for GP, SP and CP. Its much simpler than trying to recreate a formula we don't really understand. One person not getting loot was a part of the Live system, and I think we can retain that after a fashion.

I don't like the down convert option, thats too far from the live version.

It may eliminate the looter coin advantage, but I still don't think that aspect adds a meaningful wrinkle to the P1999 immersion.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:41 AM
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FYI, I don't remember any downconvert in live. We always used a master looter who would do a /split at the end of a group.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:49 AM
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I just tested this with even and odd coin amounts in varying group sizes. It works correctly. The coins are split evenly, until there aren't enough coins to be split, at which point the looter gets the remainder, which is how it functioned on live.
I actually posted this before I saw this thread. It's working correctly as it is right now. There was never any downconverting. It was advantageous to be the one to loot every corpse even if you had split on.

In zones where mobs would frequently drop ~5 plat, you could quickly make a decent amount of cash off a group of 6 who weren't aware of the split mechanics.
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