Discussion: Play Nice (Training, Bind Camping)

[SearyxTZ]

Enforce against training if you actually have the staff/manpower to do it and they have thick enough skin to deal with that shit, plus the competency to realize the difference between an intentional train and an unintentional one (Sirken was good)

Realize that this is going to be problematic either way though - enforced or not.

Reason being....

FYI, training is the hardest of any PnP to actually prove or come to a conclusion about as a GM.

You have to derive intent, which is fucking impossible. If they were bringing in the mobs cause PvP was required before someone engaged or killed the mob, or just trained...

That. It's a very difficult thing to enforce or judge accurately, even when you are in the zone watching.

[SearyxTZ]

Even now, I'm getting terrible flashbacks of when I was a GM and Kaahbal sent me the lowest-quality youtube video imaginable as hard proof of a Sebilis train, and I was supposed to deduce that a blurry brown pixel was Rexx training, amongst the other 40 pixel blob characters and sebillite juggernauts that they were already fighting which were taking up half the screen....

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Rushmore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

banning does nothing. Why doesn't anyone ever call for character delete?

How does your account being banned with ur characters being unusable differ from character being deleted? Either way u cant play the toon any more.

[Pudge]

on vztz it was common to say "ban" but really mean "suspend"

a true ban was called a permaban

[Scribbles]

lots of dumb suggestions in this thread. for those who are only interested in the good ones allow me to recommend searyx and my posts

[wrxBRAH]

training and camping is ok. its a pvp server, it'll sort itself and provide less shit for gms to deal with.

[bakkily]

but i'm guessing this server will have the same pve reward system as p99, meaning same mobs give the same exp here as in there, i sure hope that they only come out with the orignal eq era for a few months or 5-6 months before kunark is released, original zones are i think the best zones in eq, or velious, kunarks bleh

[Macken]

Free Trade PvP.


... with one possible exception....no training....and only because we don't have enough true hard core pvpr's in this community who have enough skill and determination to adapt.


....and for a 50% bonus to server greatness...put in the leaderboard asap, so i can brag again for years afterward.

[Smedy]

I think a play nice policy should be enforced by the GM's regarding training. With free for all training it becomes a match of whoever has the most FD classes and no one gets to have any fun.

I think the reason it was so hard to police training on vztz was because of the lack of actual punishment + the ease to get a character to 60 + gear. (+ the GM's allowed themselves to get trolled over and over so eventually they were to confused to know what the fuck was going on anyway)

If you stick with your slow exp formula you have on P99 currently and implement pvp with a good active GM staff we should be able to get rid of the 10-20% population who are not into following rules.

[Arillious]

Bind camping doesnt happen very much and you should not much to much thought into it.

Regarding training, I'd suggest less GM involvement. Most guilds will not allow someone who is a known trainer to be in their guild. If someone from Guild A is training Guild B, then Guild B should contact a Guild A officer and provide evidence. If guild A doesnt do anything about it, then guild B should just corpse camp the hell out of guild A until the person is removed or the guild falls apart. Either way, problem solved. Worked on live.