Game Mechanics: Food size duration is not respected.

[p99portage]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is halfway complete. Needs to be resurrected and touched up before implementing.

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!

This is awesome!

[mcoy]

Stocks of fuzzlecutter are already dwindling...

-Mcoy

[nilbog]

I have the differing values (durations) per era working.


Does anyone have more research on the following:

• A definitive time of how often a character should eat or drink?
• Large races eating more than smaller races?
• Drinking more in desert zones?
• Anything else about food/drink that is relevant?

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have the differing values (durations) per era working.


Does anyone have more research on the following:

• A definitive time of how often a character should eat or drink?
• Large races eating more than smaller races?
• Drinking more in desert zones?
• Anything else about food/drink that is relevant?

I had dug up some evidence about desert zone consumption, seemed to be a 2:1 ratio in the Ro deserts + Oasis + Lavastorm (for consuming drink). Should note there was some conflicting evidence and no logs posted of timing it.

I had never timed it myself on Live but i'm not sure if it still exists there.

Here's some of the in era comments I dredged up.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ghlight=desert

[Rygar]

From Qien Logs:

[Sun Nov 11 20:11:19 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:12:06 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:12:52 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:13:39 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:14:25 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:15:12 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:15:58 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:16:19 2001] You tell your party, 'hrm.. anyone have any drink? I'm running out'
[Sun Nov 11 20:16:45 2001] You are low on drink.
[Sun Nov 11 20:16:47 2001] You tell your party, 'just 5 waters or so should be good'
[Sun Nov 11 20:16:49 2001] You tell your party, 'thanks gwen'
***Note: no log note of trade window opening? Hmm, I think he thought he received water but ran out***
[Wed Nov 14 01:36:35 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Nov 14 01:38:13 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Nov 14 01:38:59 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Nov 14 01:39:46 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Nov 14 01:40:32 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Nov 14 01:42:00 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Nov 14 01:42:46 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Nov 14 01:43:04 2001] Isslana tells you, 'That'll be 1 silver 2 copper per Water Flask'.
[Wed Nov 14 01:43:06 2001] You give 2 gold 3 silver 3 copper to Isslana.
[Wed Nov 14 01:43:07 2001] You give 2 gold 3 silver 3 copper to Isslana.
[Wed Nov 14 01:43:09 2001] You give 2 gold 3 silver 3 copper to Isslana.

[Rygar]

Meh i'm tired... looks like he did get those drinks but must not get trade window messages or not logged, since he ran out 3 days later. I'll dig some more later. Found a later spot where he continuously ran low then ran out, I have to parse the total time he was in game though

[nilbog]

My baking conclusions - Everquest Message Board (archive.org)

This thread from 2000 states food is consumed every 30.5 minutes.


I would like an accurate pre-Apr2001 baseline. From my math, food/drink on p99 is currently eaten/drank approximately every 33.75 minutes.

Remaining steps:

1. Ensure consumption timer is correct pre-Apr2001
2. Create a modifier that will apply an accurate difference for duration, assuming that no food/drink post-Apr2001 is consumed at a faster rate than pre-Apr2001. (For example, if any post-Apr2001 has a lower duration than pre-Apr2001, that would seem strange, but if there is any evidence for it, please let me know).


Additionally, was any food or drink (not alcohol) clickable for force consumption prior to Apr2001?

[Awsten_Tx]

https://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/for...rink-durations

This post is out of era, but might be a decent starting point. I dont remember much being changed food wise...

[mcoy]

Mccoy ate/drank mostly summoned stuff - so you might get some timers from his logs. Not sure if it helps starting out empty and knowing how many he had based on "you begin casting abundant drink" or what have you.

Qien should have fuzzlecutter in his logs if you're looking for the "enduring" duration too.

-Mcoy

[Rygar]

Dug a little deeper, certainly warrants further research. I verified Qien/Mccoy/Gdevash each purchased "Water Flask". I am not sure at this point what triggers a 'low on drink' message. Is it 1 item remaining? 2?

Qien Log
Low on drink interval timer = 46.5 seconds
Out of drink interval timer = 46.5 seconds
Low on food interval timer = 46.5 seconds
Out of food/drink interval timer = 46.5 seconds
[Tue Dec 11 21:10:37 2001] [52 Channeler] Qien (High Elf) <Viatores Norrathae> ZONE: commons
35 low on drink messages received 12/12/01
37 low on drink messages received 12/19/01

NOTE: had 'low on drink' messages in Northern Desert of Ro continue to go off every 46.5 seconds, as well as 'out of drink' messages in Ro/Oasis. Did not seem to affect total number of messages received.

[Wed Dec 19 18:18:37 2001] You have entered Southern Desert of Ro.
[Wed Dec 19 18:19:09 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:19:57 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:20:43 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:21:30 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:22:16 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:23:03 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:23:49 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:24:36 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:25:22 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:26:09 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:26:55 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:27:42 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:28:29 2001] You are low on drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:29:15 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:30:02 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:30:48 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:31:35 2001] You are out of drink.
[Wed Dec 19 18:32:21 2001] You are out of drink.


Gdevash Log
Low on drink interval timer = 42.5 seconds
Out of drink interval timer = 42.5 seconds
Out of drink low on food timer = 45 seconds
[Thu Jul 25 00:06:28 2002] [15 Beastlord] Gdevash (Vah Shir)
28 low on drink messages received 7/30/02 (zoned like a maniac.. possible some messages not received, not sure how timer restarts)


Mccoy Log
Low on drink interval timer = 46.5 seconds
[Sat Jul 27 00:45:14 2002] [33 Cleric] Mccoy (Human)
Only 5 messages logged 7/27/02, summoned drink before running out

Mashdem Log
Out of drink/food timer = 46.5 seconds
[Tue Jul 16 03:15:18 2002] [9 Warrior] Mashdem (Troll)

I have some 2006 EQMac logs showing a newbie ogre warrior going 95 'low on drink' messages before running out... not sure if the newbie drink had extraordinary properties.