Things That Should Not Be

[Rasterburn]

^^ what he said (I played a DE).

[zianlo1]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember the rationale being used by Verant, back at the time when they introduced the Bazaar...

What a lot of you are either selectively remembering, or simply forgetting altogether, is the fact that back in the day, a lot of lowbies used to complain about the constant /auction spam in the EC and GFay zones. It made it harder for beginners and lowbies to sort through the spam and hook up with groups. It also interfered with those folks who enjoyed roleplaying (remember roleplayers?).

Additionally, there were often complaints about occasional griefing from high-level players, who were primarily in lowbie zones to buy and sell things... but who also got bored sometimes and decided to "go mess with the n00bs." For example, I remember an occasion where some high level players charmed the EC griffon, buffed him, and then sent him on a rampage of terror all over EC... slaughtering players and NPC's alike. Not cool. Hilarious to be sure, but totally uncool... especially back in those days before PoK books, when a dead player might have to run back from five zones away to reclaim their corpse.

So to respond to all of those complaints... which had been going on for YEARS by the time Luclin was finally rolled out... Verant in their wisdom decided that they could eliminate a lot of headaches by creating a faction-neutral and centralized location for player trading to take place. Hence the inception of the Bazaar.

At the time, I was like most of you. I had become so accustomed to the GFay and EC tunnel trading scene that I wrinkled my nose at the Bazaar. For a long time, I refused to use it at all. But after awhile, I found myself reluctantly agreeing with Verant's reasons for creating it.

Sorry, that was me on my druid if you were on Cazic Thule =D

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by zianlo1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, that was me if you were on Cazic Thule =D

LOL... well, I have a confession to make. :x

It was... umm... ME and my guildies, on Mith Marr back sometime in the spring of 2001, I think. I can't recall exactly when it was. We charmed the griff, gave it a SoW buff and a cleric HP buff, chanter gave it haste and strength buffs and then we set it loose. It utterly demolished every living thing in the zone that it aggro'ed on within about fifteen minutes. Finally a GM showed up and he almost suspended us LOL. We managed to bullshit our way out of it, fortunately. And yes, I do regret doing it.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Kevris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Player opinions should not be in project 1999.

Everquest was far, far better as a game before the development team started listening to what players wanted.

Game developers are successfull at their profession for a reason. I firmly believe not only Everquest, but video games in general, were better before developers got all touchy-feely with their users and started giving a shit what we asked for.

We're lazy idiots who screm bloody murder on the forums about "nerf this," or "baww that class has something I want because I want a super character," or "oh god it's too hard bawww." If you want to see what user input does to a game, log into eqlive, level from 1-85 in a month using your mercenary, then go camp goup-drop gear that's nearly as good as raid-drop gear.

We'd be in a much better place had the early EQ devs told us to shut the fuck up and play the game.

You win! Thread over.

[Aetherial]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys playing female characters = okay. I play one myself.

Guys actually pretending to be girls = not okay. That's rather warped.


As for all of the Luclin-related comments, it needs to be pointed out that Luclin was the final expansion developed in full by Verant, thus is it every bit as "classic" as Kunark and Velious. Whether people preferred it or not has nothing to do with its status as a classic EverQuest expansion. It most certainly was... and in my humble opinion, it should be included on any server claiming to be "classic EQ."

I play a female character also, in most RPG games.

If I have to look at a toon for hours, I would rather it be a woman. Also, I just find the idea of a kick-ass female to be much more interesting.

[Lagaidh]

My profile pic is Live Lagaidh with his dyed armor. I purposefully made the most mis-matched gawdy set of armor I could.

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by Aetherial [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play a female character also, in most RPG games.

If I have to look at a toon for hours, I would rather it be a woman. Also, I just find the idea of a kick-ass female to be much more interesting.

Agreed. I'd rather look at a chick's ass all day long than a sweaty guy's ass. That's just the sort of person I am. I like girls -- both real and imaginary -- even if they are just a collection of pixels.

Not only that, but I also play caster classes exclusively... and the notion of a seemingly harmless looking little chick who can blow your balls off has a certain humorous appeal. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lucrio40]

Originally Posted by Rasterburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. I'd rather look at a chick's ass all day long than a sweaty guy's ass. That's just the sort of person I am. I like girls -- both real and imaginary -- even if they are just a collection of pixels.

Not only that, but I also play caster classes exclusively... and the notion of a seemingly harmless looking little chick who can blow your balls off has a certain humorous appeal. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People can get away with that excuse now with the improved camera of the modern client, but seriously who the hell played 3rd person view in 1999? If you rolled up a female toon in 1999 you didn't roll it because you wanted to look at a female character, you wanted other people to look at you and see a female character.

[Rasterburn]

Originally Posted by Lucrio40 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you rolled up a female toon in 1999 you didn't roll it because you wanted to look at a female character, you wanted other people to look at you and see a female character.

If that is true in some people's case, then that's their problem. That was never true in my case. I simply prefer the appearance of the female character models. And since I do not sit there imagining that my toon is actually me (never been much of a roleplayer), then her gender is in no way related to my own. I simply like the way she looks, period.

The people who worry a lot about this issue are often sexually insecure young males, who worry too much about hitting on a female toon and then feeling like a queer after they discover that she is owned by another guy. Which is actually hilarious, when you think about it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In any case, it is well known that the vast majority of EQ players are male. If all of us played male toons exclusively, then you'd be living in fag land every time you logged into the game. Who the hell wants that..? Not me, thanks. So somebody has to play the female toons, otherwise the entire game world ends up looking like a gay bath house in 'Frisco.

[fuji]

I agree that major things of the game should be left alone, I mean look how SWG turned out!

Back to EQ, I think that light blue mobs should have been left out.