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Old 07-21-2025, 05:02 PM
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So this is the entirety of your validation parses?

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
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Old 07-21-2025, 05:02 PM
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The point is I have proven that I can find the defensive values like AC for mobs using my DPS calculator.
No, you haven't. There are a variety of things that can cause a result.

Again, do a parse against 550 and 800 AC targets. Let's see how well those parses align with in-game raid parses. That would be a good starting point.
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Old 07-21-2025, 05:05 PM
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So this is the entirety of your validation parses?

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
Those are the example parses, yes. I didn't post every single test. Take a look at Corudoth. I used three different classes (Shadowknight, Shaman, and Monk). The Monk is level 52, so there is also level variance. The youtube links have the log data in the descriptions, so you can double check my DPS parses. The one without a video is the Shaman Spear of Fate, that has the logs in the text file.

https://youtu.be/YXh1lQyRZ_A?feature=shared - Monk parse for Corudoth.

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No, you haven't. There are a variety of things that can cause a result.
Like what?
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Old 07-21-2025, 06:39 PM
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Those are the example parses, yes.
It's great to include logs and essential to include the exact input to the calculator, which you did, but it would be much more convenient to list for each parse the measured DPS and the calculated DPS.

I was curious if I could replicate your results and when I used the listed inputs to the most recent version of the calculator I got these results:

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
552 seconds, 30.28 DPS
Calculator: 30.20, 30.95, 31.77, 31.68, 31.15
Conclusion: High by about 0.5 DPS

Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
553 seconds, 27.5 DPS (without fistweaving)
Calculator: 39.86, 40.14, 37.99, 37.71, 42.70
Conclusion: I must have made a mistake here? This is way off.

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
531 seconds, 70.25 DPS
Calculator: 78.65, 75.46, 73.99, 76.53, 76.26
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-6 DPS

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
603 seconds, 64.9 DPS
Calculator: 70.50, 72.67, 73.96, 71.73, 74.39
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-7 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
3.23 DoT DPS + 2.9 White Damage DPS = 6.13 DPS
Calculator: 7.06, 6.70, 6.66, 6.37, 6.51
Conclusion: Calculator is high by about 0.5 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
355 seconds, 32.7 DPS
Calculator: 30.8, 30.24, 31.10, 31.74, 32.17
Conclusion: Calculator is low by about 1 DPS

Does this look correct to you? For the calculator results I reran 5 times and listed the output of "Attacker Predicted Total DPS" each time.
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Old 07-21-2025, 07:05 PM
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It's great to include logs and essential to include the exact input to the calculator, which you did, but it would be much more convenient to list for each parse the measured DPS and the calculated DPS.

I was curious if I could replicate your results and when I used the listed inputs to the most recent version of the calculator I got these results:

Sznake vs. Eldak Howlingbear - Epic Fist + Stave of Shielding
552 seconds, 30.28 DPS
Calculator: 30.20, 30.95, 31.77, 31.68, 31.15
Conclusion: High by about 0.5 DPS

Sznake vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Imbued Fighters Staff
553 seconds, 27.5 DPS (without fistweaving)
Calculator: 39.86, 40.14, 37.99, 37.71, 42.70
Conclusion: I must have made a mistake here? This is way off.

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Ancient Fire Etched Flamberge
531 seconds, 70.25 DPS
Calculator: 78.65, 75.46, 73.99, 76.53, 76.26
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-6 DPS

Bazgek vs. Corudoth - Frostwrath
603 seconds, 64.9 DPS
Calculator: 70.50, 72.67, 73.96, 71.73, 74.39
Conclusion: Calculator is high by 5-7 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Mentrax Mountainbone - Blight, Hammer of the Scourge
3.23 DoT DPS + 2.9 White Damage DPS = 6.13 DPS
Calculator: 7.06, 6.70, 6.66, 6.37, 6.51
Conclusion: Calculator is high by about 0.5 DPS

Shamwowi vs. Corudoth - Spear of Fate
355 seconds, 32.7 DPS
Calculator: 30.8, 30.24, 31.10, 31.74, 32.17
Conclusion: Calculator is low by about 1 DPS

Does this look correct to you?
I am glad to see you are trying to learn my calculator, and I knew these exact questions were coming.

For the most obvious parse that was off, which is Monk IFS, I can tell you what you did wrong.

1. You didn't turn off fistweaving. To do so you need to set the offhand weapon damage to 0. Monks will automatically fistweave otherewise with 2h weapons. This isn't particularly user friendly I agree, but that is how it's done. When fistweaving is actually turned off DPS is around 28.

2. For the Corudoth Monk parse IFS will look high has well with fistweaving. This is because if you just use 9/16 in the offhand, it will fistweave way more than I did in the video. In theory you can get two fistweaves per IFS attack with a 16 delay weapon, but I didn't attempt that. I did one fistweave per IFS swing animation. To get the DPS number more accurate, you need to set the offhand to 9/40 to reflect that I did fistweaving in time with the 2h swings.

The Corudoth Parses are also a bit high because I used the autoscaling feature for a level 5. This was for simplicity, to avoid uncessary errors for new users. Corudoth has higher AC than normal.

Corudoth's stats are closer to this:

var mobStats=CreateStatStruct();mobStats.level=5,mobSt ats.class="Warrior",mobStats.scaleDefensiveValuesB asedOnMobLevel=false,mobStats.agility=150,mobStats .defenseSkill=25,mobStats.totalAC=80,mobStats.ripo steSkill=0,mobStats.parrySkill=0,mobStats.dodgeSki ll=0,mobStats.blockSkill=0;
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Old 07-21-2025, 07:16 PM
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Old 07-21-2025, 07:41 PM
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Old 07-21-2025, 07:43 PM
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I am glad to see you are trying to learn my calculator, and I knew these exact questions were coming.

For the most obvious parse that was off, which is Monk IFS, I can tell you what you did wrong.
Dude, I'm following your instructions from your validation file don't blame me.

If you're gonna say you've validated the calculator, I'd suggest validating your validation and posting the results in an easy-to-follow format like the one I used above, along with all the settings necessary to replicate it. As of now, without validations that can be replicated it's unvalidated.
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Old 07-21-2025, 07:59 PM
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Dude, I'm following your instructions from your validation file don't blame me.

If you're gonna say you've validated the calculator, I'd suggest validating your validation and posting the results in an easy-to-follow format like the one I used above, along with all the settings necessary to replicate it. As of now, without validations that can be replicated it's unvalidated.
You can see that Bcbrown found no obvious flaws. The DPS calculations were within 1 DPS of the parses he checked across different mobs, classes, and weapons. Both the IFS parse and Corudoth parses become correct when he follows my instructions.

He even got to the Corudoth parse running a bit hot, and I gave him the correct stats in response. I purposely did this for Corudoth to see if a person like Bcbrown was able to get this far, and he did. Honestly good job!

I could have spent more time making this user friendly, but honestly trolls dismiss all evidence anyway, regardless of how good it is. It's sadly a waste of time on my side more often than not. You can blame the trolls.

Let me know if you have more questions or concerns.
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