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Old 04-26-2014, 12:04 AM
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Entire guild uses program to track their raids, they send out scouts to stalk competing raids or groups so they can watch the competitions progress in real time, unfair advantage confirmed. If you can't think of ways that this tips the scales then you're either not trying or still leveling your first toon to 50.
How is this different than anyone scouting/stalking other guilds and reporting their movement now? Is your argument because it would be presented in graphic form instead of just reported in guild chat? And the other guild would have to same opportunity to do the same thing in return, no? Not sure what's unfair about this. But I might just have had too many drinks already. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:25 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the maps you are using look like the in-game maps. Those did not exist back then. So, this is not classic, and you could not have done this back then, because you would not have the map to display your location on.
Parsing your locs from the logs, fine, but useless without a proper map to display your stuff on.

GJ anyways. But I would not use it for that reason.
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:33 AM
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Well, it would be simple enough to plot the lines via edge detection on the old hand drawn maps (having the line plots from the maps/* directory just saved a step from what would have been done back in the day).

Anyways, check it out:

https://github.com/ahungry/p99-patcher

Read the page there for help setting it up, the binary (exe file) can be found at:

http://ahungry.com/p99-patcher-min.7z

Just download, extract via 7-zip and you'll be able to double click the ".bat" file to launch it (it will open your default web browser to the patcher home page, you can then scroll down and click "Mapper" to open in a new tab the fun new map app!

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Old 04-26-2014, 03:00 AM
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don't see how this is any more or less "classic" then using text trigger software for timers or for audio triggers...

at this point, there are very few zones that i don't know about anyways inside and out...but if its out there i'm gonna use it if GMs say we can.
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:46 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the maps you are using look like the in-game maps. Those did not exist back then. So, this is not classic, and you could not have done this back then, because you would not have the map to display your location on.
Parsing your locs from the logs, fine, but useless without a proper map to display your stuff on.
your are incorrect cause this software can actually create a map from the scratch - your char simply runs around zone edges doing /loc and the programs draws a map from the log file. Technically it works on the same principle that LOY cartographer system worked on for first people who were running around "drawing lines" with it (I know I did).

The ONLY thing that I can find not-classic with this is that old days EQ couldn't be ALT-TAB out of - so you could not run (or at least access) any other software at the same time. This would not prevent you from creating a map, but would prevent you from looking at your active position. However there was special eq-window box software introduced at some point which was used by 2-boxers.
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:11 PM
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Well, in classic days even without alt tab you could share files across computers - since this is just scanning the /log file (a static file) there would have been nothing stopping said program from scanning a network file share mount of the main computer's EQ log directory (just would have required 2 machines).
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:23 PM
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I don't agree with any of this log file parsing crap. In the end it hurts the server. But, dead server is dead anyway. Just a rotating list of 800-1200 people reliving a dream.
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:31 PM
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From a third party program standpoint, this is legitimate. Doesn't manipulate the client, just reads from log file. Not comparable to SEQ or MQ2 as it doesn't share those programs advantages. As I've stated previously, in most cases, so long as a program doesn't manipulate the client itself and is only reading from a log file, it can be used on this server.

From a classic standpoint, also legitimate. The technology to do this was clearly present at the time of Everquest's release.

Investigations GM gives it the thumbs up. Unless management chimes in and says otherwise, this is fine.*

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Old 04-26-2014, 12:37 PM
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From a third party program standpoint, this is legitimate. Doesn't manipulate the client, just reads from log file. Not comparable to SEQ or MQ2 as it doesn't share those programs advantages. As I've stated previously, in most cases, so long as a program doesn't manipulate the client itself and is only reading from a log file, it can be used on this server.

From a classic standpoint, also legitimate. The technology to do this was clearly present at the time of Everquest's release.

Investigations GM gives it the thumbs up. Unless management chimes in and says otherwise, this is fine.*

*Project 1999 does not endorse and is not affiliated with www.ahungry.com or any of the programs or services contained within that site. Please always use caution when browsing the internet, and use any programs you find not hosted on www.project1999.com at your own risk. The statements contained within this post are only valid as they pertain to these programs not getting you banned on Project 1999 for their use.
haha love the disclaimer at the end :P
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:51 PM
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I don't agree with any of this log file parsing crap. In the end it hurts the server. But, dead server is dead anyway. Just a rotating list of 800-1200 people reliving a dream.
that's far from a dead server
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