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Old 10-15-2015, 02:53 PM
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Nice. However that's old....and I'd like to know 2 years later, what they think.
1.5yrs ago:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=56

They haven't changed their minds, at least not on the publicly view-able end of this forum. Hopefully when a second guild starts killing in ST things can be kept civil, for everyone's sake.
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Old 10-15-2015, 02:53 PM
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Thanks Ele, but I only see 7 in that list.

I was on Povar when he was awakened and that was only 1 monthish before Luclin was released. He was killed but that was Luclin time frame when he was.
Killed? Sleeper was not "killed" until November 2003, LDoN era, and then it was only because mob hp was not regening while in combat. http://tesuji.org/old_news/kerafyrm_...revisited.html
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Old 10-15-2015, 03:18 PM
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Killed was later, yes Ele, that's what I was mentioning. But only 7 on your list was when he was awoken before Luclin was released. Luclin release was Dec. 2001.
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Old 10-15-2015, 03:19 PM
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Sorry, I see what you said. Yes, I meant to say LoDN, not Luclin.
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Old 10-15-2015, 03:24 PM
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So, technically speaking, he will NEVER be killed on P99 because that bug will never exist. There is no historical data saying that the sleeper had that regen bug from the beginning.

So again, my take is that I think there is an argument that supports NOT waking the sleeper because it didn't happen across the board (all servers before luclin release) and the flip side to that is he was awakened on a few servers before luclin and the capability is there.
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Old 10-15-2015, 03:28 PM
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Wasn't it ex-whatever-IB-was-called-there wake the sleeper on eqmac(Alkabor)? Violating a many years long agreement on that server to never wake him?

This surely bodes well for nap time continuing on p99!
Didn't Rellapse wake the sleeper and troll EQMac until he forced CSR/SOE to label it a PR nightmare and shut the server down due to the fact they could no longer support it with trolls and hackers like Rellapse and his goons conspiring to destroy EQMAC with warp trains, intra-gate trains, fading memory hack trains, and other shenanigans..

Pretty sure waking sleeper was just the latest troll in a long line of toxic trolls who had joined EQMac earlier that year and were hellbent on making sure this special server was sent to the grave at breakneck speed...
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Old 10-15-2015, 03:35 PM
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I remember a SOE dev post saying as much. They specifically said that the support for EQMac (limited volunteer support) was not an official company cost, or something of that nature. And that GMs weren't supposed to exist on EQMac any longer, as support had been pulled. Yet the server remained up for legal reasons.

And that if EQMac kept generating and spamming large amounts of emails and petitions from griefing trolls, it would have to be shut down.

Rellapse read the dev post and began a series of events to give SOE what they wanted, a reason to pull the plug.

Entire ordeal was cashed and played out between the uber guilds and Rellapse on the on Fires of Heaven forums before they went down with daily updates on the Sleeper saga and the guild drama. Some of the juiciest reading I had ever read in my gaming history, to be sure.
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Old 10-15-2015, 03:36 PM
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I don't know the full history and could very well be wrong. Was IB = TSE/Resistance? Thought that was where the sleeper waking crew came from
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Old 10-15-2015, 04:35 PM
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I don't know the full history and could very well be wrong. Was IB = TSE/Resistance? Thought that was where the sleeper waking crew came from
That's very apparent. I doubt anyone, including myself, is going to explain the history of TSE to correct some random forum troll that has no clue what he's talking about.
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Old 10-15-2015, 04:44 PM
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thanks for contributing to the discussion, Bruno!

my point was IB already woke the sleeper against one servers wishes. what chance do you think blue99 has?
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