One spell to rule them all

[Dfn]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm really done arguing with you tbh.... About 8-10 people have proven and told you to please quit posting... Your memories are so far and jaded and your experience in Classic is next to none.

Jilena has it pretty much spot on, in what we are trying to accomplish achieve.

Darwoth even posted a Screenshot from around 2000...

Another Solid Quote from Lethdar:


You should really try doing some research.
But im guessing Lethdar, Darwoth... Hell everyone at Safehouse in those posts (from posts during that era) are all wrong eh Bockscar?

You should repost that in a fresh thread so the devs see.

[MakeYouMad]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tmoneynegro... Im calling Bshit as usual... I was the top geared warrior during Velious

How come I didn't see you at Test of Tactics PvP tournament finals where I was also playing a warrior in Velious? lol

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kaaq (as seen in the screenshot Darw's thread, could still land Sunstrike "rarely for 1610" but for 800-1000 alot during velious

And here's a guy in the year 2000 saying there was a 50% resist rate on ice comet with 120CR.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...88&postcount=5

Full resist rate was obviously much higher than 1 in 30 casts. It was at least 25-30% with 120CR from my recollection. When I PvP'd against druids on my monk, they didn't even bother casting nukes on me, just spammed dots over and over. I remember Darwoth nuked me for like 60-70% of possible damage one day and I looked at my screen surprised that it actually landed. Darwoth was the only druid that even attempted to use mana nuking me. That guy Amreet only cast dots every time. Same with Dharma on SZ.

When I got nuked with 120ish resists, about 1/4th were full resist, 1/4th 25% damage, 1/4th 50% damage, and 1/4th 75% damage.

Next is a post from Luclin era (after resists were changed for spells to land easier) where a guy says sunstrike hit him for 1100 out of possible 1600 damage with 120resist.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...l=1#post131439

[Kringe]

Originally Posted by MakeYouMad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How come I didn't see you at Test of Tactics PvP tournament finals where I was also playing a warrior in Velious? lol

Um ToT was held before Velious In Kunark where my pal fiegi represted and RZ won.... (Warrior Botb was in Kunark where I hadnt really switched to the warrior class yet)

And the next big ToT was the 18vs 18 where I was in it, and we defeated 3 teams then lost to TZ (I think cause one of our bards didnt show up) and not having 3 bards in that was gg... Was still a blast tho..

Originally Posted by MakeYouMad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And here's a guy in the year 2000 saying there was a 50% resist rate on ice comet with 120CR.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...88&postcount=5

Full resist rate was obviously much higher than 1 in 30 casts. It was at least 25-30% with 120CR from my recollection. When I PvP'd against druids on my monk, they didn't even bother casting nukes on me, just spammed dots over and over. I remember Darwoth nuked me for like 60-70% of possible damage one day and I looked at my screen surprised that it actually landed. Darwoth was the only druid that even attempted to use mana nuking me. That guy Amreet only cast dots every time. Same with Dharma on SZ.

When I got nuked with 120ish resists, about 1/4th were full resist, 1/4th 25% damage, 1/4th 50% damage, and 1/4th 75% damage.

Next is a post from Luclin era (after resists were changed for spells to land easier) where a guy says sunstrike hit him for 1100 out of possible 1600 damage with 120resist.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...l=1#post131439

That guys is already posting from the Kunark Era (hence the talk about splurt) resisted had a few minor tweaks (nothing major) when it was released.

Who was your monk on RZ?

Anywho,
Resists can be argued till our face turns blue, but I pretty much think we are ALL in agreeance that the Pillage/Nullify line definitely shouldnt be resisted by players.

[fiegi]

I'm an everquest god, true story

[MakeYouMad]

Originally Posted by Kringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anywho
Resists can be argued till our face turns blue.

I found an actual resist parse and posted it:

"Anyway, his resist parse claims an average of 347 damage casting 793 damage Draught of Ice against himself with 167CR. If you get PvP damage reduction casting on yourself, that would be 347 out of 531 possible damage average, or 65%. If you don't get PvP damage reduction nuking yourself, that would be 347/793, or an average of 44% per nuke. No data on full resist rates. He uses the phrase "the average hit" so I'm guessing he did not count full resists as 0 damage in that parse and left them out or his average would be much lower."

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=51839

[Darwoth]

looks like his numbers fall in with exactly what i was saying, doubt he was getting many if any full resists, at 170+ cr and 200+ FR (think resists were effectively capped at 200 back then) i did not full on resist single effect spells much if at all more than i would have normally vs players.

[MakeYouMad]

Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

looks like his numbers fall in with exactly what i was saying, doubt he was getting many if any full resists, at 170+ cr and 200+ FR (think resists were effectively capped at 200 back then) i did not full on resist single effect spells much if at all more than i would have normally vs players.

Did you get PvP damage reduction casting on yourself or not because I don't remember. It's kind of a big deal that you're absolutely certain of it for the parse to be useful.

[Darwoth]

dont remember, i am talking about back on live against other players though

[Atmas]

I actually played pretty much my whole career as a Wiz on TZ.

I recall 747 as being the max damage it did but I can't remember if that was what it always was with damage reduction. I just know it ended up that way (or was that until I stopped using it).

Since I didn't poll everyone I fought on their resists I won't throw in more missinformation, lord knows this thread has enough. I can say however that Necros didnt get life tap resisted in those days and that they continued to be awesome in Kunark.

My account of talking to other wizards because I didnt have it early on was that Sunstrike and Lure of Ice would basically do in any casters.

[Nirgon]

One piece of terrible information was Sunstrike was reduced to 1615 (even in pve) on RZ (not sure about other pvp servers).

Anyways, more about classic less about Kunark for now.