Awakened 30 day

[Legday]

Originally Posted by MalystryxVoF [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when fesh was dropped on us (remember that fresh FTE our MT got right away while tanking Eashen.. FRESH FTE... hence, fesh was dropped/flopped on us at the entrance as no awa had agro) our entire raid force was wiped out without warning.

But didn't you guys get an explanation from AW, CR up and go about your uncontested day and kill Eashen? Let me know if I'm misunderstanding that.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But didn't you guys get an explanation from AW, CR up and go about your uncontested day and kill Eashen? Let me know if I'm misunderstanding that.

This is RnF Brainday - stop being logical and burn the witch

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But didn't you guys get an explanation from AW, CR up and go about your uncontested day and kill Eashen? Let me know if I'm misunderstanding that.

It literally doesnt make a difference anymore, petitions go in secretly and no guilds communicate outside of A/A. Its all about what you can get video of evil A/A doing regardless whether the server rules are followed or not, if feelings are hurt you cant fix those so gotta punish over hundred people by not allowing them to raid together for a calendar month.

What a joke, fix the rules before more guilds get run into the ground bc of inconsistency.

[Zemus]

Originally Posted by MalystryxVoF [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

anyhow, this is not even close to the same as your guild dropping fesh on us without any warning (that we did give you at dain, but chose to crop out). Your guildies all let you know to zone out before that train was even coming through the gates and only 3 of you guys died...
when fesh was dropped on us (remember that fresh FTE our MT got right away while tanking Eashen.. FRESH FTE... hence, fesh was dropped/flopped on us at the entrance as no awa had agro) our entire raid force was wiped out without warning.

also... yes you guys conceded after it happened. does that mean as long as you train others without warning and concede you should be fine and walk away with an "oops my bad we concede all is good now" ? no i do't think so. intentional or not.

Listen,

Sorry Fesh got dropped on your raid due to miscommunication on our part. Mistakes happen trying to coordinate a bunch of people. It could have cost you Eashen too as there were other raid entities outside of A/A there that morning going for it. In the end you got your kill. We did what we know to be the proper response and conceded the all the mobs in question. Had something spawned during your recovery we woudl have conceded that too. Don't know what you really wanted from us after the fact, we have zero control of the other raid entities trying to kill Eashen.

Anyway, throw down a petition because reasons and we get poped with 30 days off. Super.

[Tura]

Originally Posted by Tura [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZE6mHHSsbY

Originally Posted by MalystryxVoF [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you fail to show me shouting TRAIN quite a few times before we all ran out warning you all, you also fail to show that several of yer guild mates were also at the bridge trying to FTE Dain there and interfered with our pull and that that is how our tagger got banished and eventually pulled the train back on our camp somehow.

anyhow, this is not even close to the same as your guild dropping fesh on us without any warning (that we did give you at dain, but chose to crop out). Your guildies all let you know to zone out before that train was even coming through the gates and only 3 of you guys died...
when fesh was dropped on us (remember that fresh FTE our MT got right away while tanking Eashen.. FRESH FTE... hence, fesh was dropped/flopped on us at the entrance as no awa had agro) our entire raid force was wiped out without warning.

also... yes you guys conceded after it happened. does that mean as long as you train others without warning and concede you should be fine and walk away with an "oops my bad we concede all is good now" ? no i do't think so. intentional or not.

The point is that shit happens. It happens to every guild. God, if I could find the videos of CSG flailing themselves around in Fear Plane and managing to train every camp in the zone....But we still wouldn't petition those instances, because there's no point. Players make mistakes and it's just a part of the game. We didn't petition you for bringing guards to ZL at Dain because its not worth it getting into that kinda stuff. Look at our guild chat...do you see a bunch on people in all caps crying to one another about the injustice of it all?

You can screech on all you want about how Fesh was dropped on you - insinuating it was intentional, but it wasn't 'flopped' on you. Opmeter already clarified what happened earlier.

[Akg49]

Should be 60 days.

[acidosis]

Originally Posted by Akg49 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should be 60 days.

[Troxx]

Regardless of the circumstances of this incident, I’m quite happy that a more heavy handed approach is being used now. We have a free server with volunteer staff. The raid scene is toxic and in a lot of cases you either have people gearing out their 5th alt or the new player freshly siphoned away from a lesser guild - frustrated that their previous guild was elbowed out of content.

We aren’t going past velious. How many times must you kil the same dragon?

All of that aside, the only real problem is that the competitive nature of the raid scene devolves into bat-phoning, rule lawyering, and childish behavior. If you can’t play nice in the sand box, repeat offenders should face exponential consequences.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless of the circumstances of this incident, I’m quite happy that a more heavy handed approach is being used now. We have a free server with volunteer staff. The raid scene is toxic and in a lot of cases you either have people gearing out their 5th alt or the new player freshly siphoned away from a lesser guild - frustrated that their previous guild was elbowed out of content.

We aren’t going past velious. How many times must you kil the same dragon?

All of that aside, the only real problem is that the competitive nature of the raid scene devolves into bat-phoning, rule lawyering, and childish behavior. If you can’t play nice in the sand box, repeat offenders should face exponential consequences.

Well said. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[topgun1027]

GM's should post the evidence attached to the 30 day or w/e ruling of what happened so we can all see.

I know that I have been wrongfully suspended for kiting in fear without proof. Just logs of mob X was last aggroed on you and went to person XX because person XX aggroed your train somehow, shit happens there are honest people out there that cannot control game mechanics all the time / other people messing around with their trains / mobs.

Opmeter is a good person and anyone questioning that does not know him. So don't judge people you don't know with bs.

30 days is just ridiculous. No guild suspension should be that long.