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Tiggles · #1 03-02-2013, 11:16 AM

Hello there.

I'm looking for some super smart people to help with a work related problem.

I need to figure out how someone can "spoof" a latitude and longitude or a GPS location using an Apple IPad.

I need to show how this is done and be able to duplicate this.

I know how this can be done on an Android device but I have little knowledge on Apple products.

You may assume the following

The program is called MotionX
The IPad is (probably) Jailbroken
The iPad is connected via its LTE air card.

Basically i have a short list of people who are collecting free checks using spoofed check ins.

**nilbog** · #2 03-02-2013, 11:34 AM

Not familiar with the program, but is there a text type of read/write file from which it sends or receives data? Is bluetooth on?

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Or a much simpler solution:

http://forums.imore.com/jailbreaking...-location.html ?

Tiggles · #3 03-02-2013, 11:47 AM

Bluetooth is not required the program is commercial GPS app akin to salesforce the user can use it to get directions or look at a map.

The company my client works for has a proprietary build of motionX that allows a supervisor to log into a website and check the current location of every device attached to his team.

What We suspect is that the culprit is using an IPad developer tool and/or a Jailbroken iPad to manually set the location of the ipad so when the supervisor checks he can show he is in the field and not sitting at home.

Tiggles · #4 03-02-2013, 11:51 AM

Just saw the edit.

Is there a way to show him downloading any of these apps? Even if he deletes them and reinstalls them every day?

**nilbog** · #5 03-02-2013, 12:04 PM

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Is there a way to show him downloading any of these apps? Even if he deletes them and reinstalls them every day?

Of that I am not sure. Unfortunately I am not that familiar with apple, but I do work with windows mobile devices in a similar way. Using motorola appcenter, we disable the ability of workers to use anything except for our applications. Furthermore, you can log/flag changes using something like Mortscript. If the 'client' using the ipad has full access to the system, well, you would need the device to report home with changes. Out of my element for apple, though. Good luck.

Tiggles · #6 03-02-2013, 12:12 PM

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Of that I am not sure. Unfortunately I am not that familiar with apple, but I do work with windows mobile devices in a similar way. Using motorola appcenter, we disable the ability of workers to use anything except for our applications. Furthermore, you can log/flag changes using something like Mortscript. If the 'client' using the ipad has full access to the system, well, you would need the device to report home with changes. Out of my element for apple, though. Good luck.

Thank you nilbog

What I'm thinking is his IPad is hooked up to his computer running an app dev tool and he is sending locations using his PC.

Not a big apple user her I need to find someone who has experience in apple development

Itap · #7 03-02-2013, 12:20 PM

Out of curiosity, what gave you the impression that he has software fixing his location? We use a similar program for invoicing that also gives a location stamp once an invoice is sent. It's actually how we found out one of our employees was sending in invoices from home when he wasn't supposed to be.

Tiggles · #8 03-02-2013, 12:23 PM

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Out of curiosity, what gave you the impression that he has software fixing his location? We use a similar program for invoicing that also gives a location stamp once an invoice is sent. It's actually how we found out one of our employees was sending in invoices from home when he wasn't supposed to be.

I was sitting in my car watching him when his boss called asking him to report.

He ran inside his home and his location pop'd up 20 minutes away

Itap · #9 03-02-2013, 12:25 PM

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I was sitting in my car watching him when his boss called asking him to report.

He ran inside his home and his location pop'd up 20 minutes away

Wow. So now you just want to find out how he does it so you have proof? Or want to use it yourself? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tiggles · #10 03-02-2013, 12:27 PM

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Wow. So now you just want to find out how he does it so you have proof? Or want to use it yourself? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I need to find out how he does it because his employer is 100% sure he has shown multiple people how to do it.

I investigate fraudulent claims for my company.