We need a clarification of "bug abusing" ruling... desperately

[Nordenwatch]

In the "Server Rules" thread posted, this is included:

- If you witness, discover or hear of an exploit it becomes your responsibility to report that exploit. Some exploits could include: Loot dropping improperly for large monetary gain, pathing exploit allowing you kill NPCs at ease, or a quest rewarding you experience and giving you back the quest item to turn it in over and over for experience. We ask for everyone’s cooperation in this matter. It is important for us to stomp out any issues as quickly as we can so that things stay legit.

The problem I find is that there is no definitive way to prove that something is an exploit or an intended part of the server.

My favourite example and the one I "abuse" the most personally is the Necromancer heal ability. I have read the bug thread forums and this has been revealed to be an exploit of sorts. Are we not allowed to use this because it is an "exploit"? Should we be reporting people who do?

What about the recent drama around the dropping of the Lockets of Escape? They were not supposed to be dropping and was obviously a bug that was exploited. Should people be punished for this?

Where do we draw the line? I don't want to be banned for using the necro heal that 90% of necros use on this server, but I think that the monopolization of the Locket of Escape drop is a clear example of exploiting a bug.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Nordenwatch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the "Server Rules" thread posted, this is included:



The problem I find is that there is no definitive way to prove that something is an exploit or an intended part of the server.

My favourite example and the one I "abuse" the most personally is the Necromancer heal ability. I have read the bug thread forums and this has been revealed to be an exploit of sorts. Are we not allowed to use this because it is an "exploit"? Should we be reporting people who do?

What about the recent drama around the dropping of the Lockets of Escape? They were not supposed to be dropping and was obviously a bug that was exploited. Should people be punished for this?

Where do we draw the line? I don't want to be banned for using the necro heal that 90% of necros use on this server, but I think that the monopolization of the Locket of Escape drop is a clear example of exploiting a bug.

lockets were reported as soon as it was discovered. not sure how that is an exploit.

[Nordenwatch]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lockets were reported as soon as it was discovered. not sure how that is an exploit.

So as long as you report it you can do whatever afterwards? What happened to all the lockets that dropped?

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Nordenwatch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So as long as you report it you can do whatever afterwards? What happened to all the lockets that dropped?

no idea, but i think if what i heard was correct and they reported each one that dropped then they went above and beyond the requirements.

[KotBK]

This has already been discussed and cried about at length in other threads with GMs/Staff already having tended to it, please give it a rest as you just appear overly butthurt and pathetic as it has been done with for quite some time.

[Nordenwatch]

Originally Posted by KotBK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has already been discussed and cried about at length in other threads with GMs/Staff already having tended to it, please give it a rest as you just appear overly butthurt and pathetic as it has been done with for quite some time.

? Its not about the lockets, I used them as an example and you guys are jumping all over it. I'm wondering what the general rule on BUG EXPLOITING is, and if they can clarify it.

[Swish]

Anyone playing the game doing things they shouldn't be allowed to do (manipulating pathing etc) knows they're doing it.

Its that grey middle ground. Banking through the walls etc, I've been at it for a year but if it was never fixed on live then why should there be a problem with it? Maybe that's a precedent... did whatever the bug happens to be get fixed on the Live timeline?

[Dualform]

Originally Posted by KotBK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has already been discussed and cried about at length in other threads with GMs/Staff already having tended to it, please give it a rest as you just appear overly butthurt and pathetic as it has been done with for quite some time.

Please leave this community, asap

[Nocte]

What is this 'necro heal' thing I'm hearing about?

[Swish]

Not the heal other dude, cancel magic yourself to take the dot away? Hardly worth bothering with...just lifetap the next mob if its a big deal.