Noob stream... with lots of deaths :P

[Roguedown]

So ill be streaming my noobness dying a lot while i try and figure out this kitting thing :P

http://www.twitch.tv/rogued0wn

come chat with me so im not so bored [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[t0lkien]

I don't know how you guys kite in normal 3rd person. I F9 to the 4th view, zoom it out, bind keys to strafe and turn simultaneously, and see everything (necessary not only so you see when the DoT hits, but also for adds).

[Roguedown]

does the 4th view give more range? ill try it out

[t0lkien]

Yes you are basically looking out and down at everything - the camera isn't following the character anymore, and doesn't turn with the character. Hard to explain, but you'll see it as soon as you use it ingame. You zoom in and out by holding down mouselook (right button) and pushing and pulling the mouse. You'll see.

The trick is to bind your movement keys (I use the arrow keys for kiting) to strafe *and* turn at the same time. That way you take advantage of the hitbox thing (strafing gives you more space to avoid being hit while still landing DoTs on the mobs because with a box the diagonal is longer than the length, if you get my meaning).

I tap to maintain a circle small enough to land the dot, but big enough to avoid being hit. The level 2 dot is much harder to land this way though. It's possible the 3rd person/mouse version you are using is more efficient until the level 18 DoT. But with the higher level DoT, it works beautifully, is very easy to see to what's happening and so is more efficient once you get the distances down. It's also very easy to do for long periods as it's not nearly as taxing as mouse strafing.

You *can* land the Level 2 DoT this way, it's just the timing has to be much more precise. You'll need a decent ping to do it I think - which I don't have being in Australia.

[Roguedown]

OOH thats where im going wrong, i need to bind strafe and turn to the same dam key?

[t0lkien]

Yes, if you want to use my way. Actually, the guides all suggest you strafe in a circle anyway, even with the mouse (strafe the opposite way to the way you are turning - so if you are making anti-clockwise circles, hold the right strafe key down as well as forward etc.)

My way, I hit auto-run and tap the strafe/turn key continually to make the circle.

[Roguedown]

so bind turn right and strafe left together? and turn left and strafe right?

[t0lkien]

My setup is - right arrow key is bound to turn right and strafe right; left arrow key is turn left and strafe left. So if I hold an arrow key down I strafe turn in little circles.

I keep WASD the same. When I'm kiting, my left hand is twisting songs on the number keys, and my right hand is controlling the movement with the arrow keys. I can revert to normal movement anytime by moving to left hand on WASD, right hand on the mouse, and hitting the "change view" key twice to get back to the normal view. For this reason I've bound the change view key to the F button. I need to be able to make a fast transition if things go pear shaped and I have to zone.

[Roguedown]

you are my hero! that binding turn and strafe at the same time made it 1000x easier

except i used WSAD to move and my arrow keys to twist songs :P

[t0lkien]

Whatever works [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I've never tried kiting at the level you are. It's much harder.