re: Item Loot, err, Spell Resists!

[Alecta]

I thought people might want a break from the item loot posts.

Effective next patch, we will be able to tweak the PvP resist parameters without a patch. And as a part of that, we are going to be modifying the values a bit.

I slapped together a spreadsheet that should give some idea of where we're headed.

Feel free to experiment via "File" -> "Make a copy" and modifying the green cells.

Any feedback is appreciated, including what people might like to see in classic / kunark / velious.

[Kastro]

Will it work like on live back in the day... as in if you had High MR, root and snare wore off faster?.. Resists working properly is key to fun item loot.... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Combobreaker]

very cool

[Lowlife]

thx alecta

[Hughman]

Originally Posted by Kastro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Will it work like on live back in the day... as in if you had High MR, root and snare wore off faster?.. Resists working properly is key to fun item loot.... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This, as long as resists are working properly its not as big a hassle to be playing a melee in item loot.

[Kastro]

Originally Posted by Hughman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This, as long as resists are working properly its not as big a hassle to be playing a melee in item loot.

Yeah I remember as a troll SK on RZ... if i wore enough MR gear to get around 100mr I was fairly safe from root and snare... so it was worth risking that gear while we were grouped up and Ganking..

[Vexenu]

Most important thing to get right is MR.

With an MR of 100 a player should be resisting over 90% of movement restricting spells and blinds/stuns. With an MR over 125 it's like 98%.

PvP on Red where people are regularly getting rooted and snared with 100+ MR is totally non-classic. On Live those spells were basically never used unless the target was Tashed, simply because they almost never landed against a decently geared opponent.

Movement/positioning is really the only skill-based aspect of EQ PvP, so eliminating that by allowing roots and snares to land reliably dumbs down PvP a great deal. I mean, a caster who can root/nuke or snare/nuke a melee to death is displaying zero skill. It's literally the same exact tactic for a PvE kill against a mob with no intelligence. Allowing that sort of thing to take place regularly with geared characters and calling it "PvP" is a complete joke.

[Lowlife]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most important thing to get right is MR.

With an MR of 100 a player should be resisting over 90% of movement restricting spells and blinds/stuns. With an MR over 125 it's like 98%.

PvP on Red where people are regularly getting rooted and snared with 100+ MR is totally non-classic. On Live those spells were basically never used unless the target was Tashed, simply because they almost never landed against a decently geared opponent.

Movement/positioning is really the only skill-based aspect of EQ PvP, so eliminating that by allowing roots and snares to land reliably dumbs down PvP a great deal. I mean, a caster who can root/nuke or snare/nuke a melee to death is displaying zero skill. It's literally the same exact tactic for a PvE kill against a mob with no intelligence. Allowing that sort of thing to take place regularly with geared characters and calling it "PvP" is a complete joke.

vex so wise in the ways of EQ

[Alecta]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP on Red where people are regularly getting rooted and snared with 100+ MR is totally non-classic.

Re: Roots - this still happening?

Snares are on my plate for next patch, but roots should have been taken care of.

[Retti_]

I love Hughman