Etiquette in Blackburrow...?!

[Unferth]

Hey guys!

I'm a bit new to the server, but I've been having a good time reliving my old EQ experiences. I'm stoked to have found a Classic EQ server that resembles the glory days, and I've had a lot of fun leveling a Rogue and now a Druid.

If I can be straight-forward, one thing that's not so cool, though, is the general etiquette /manners/behavior I've seen in the Blackburrow zone in the Qeynos Hills.

On this server, it seems like the norm for 20+ toons to camp outside/inside of Blackburrow and clear mass amounts of green-conning Gnolls for their fangs. I know that turning in the Gnoll Fangs grants a massive XP boost from levels 1-24, but what the heck ever happened to courtesy?

There are literally over 1k people on this server at primetime, with 10+ people on average in Blackburrow at any given time on the weekends. With a crowd of level 6-10s trying to group up and struggle for XP kills, how can any 16+ that cons green to all the Gnolls justify slaughtering green con mobs for the offchance of getting a fang?! That's just greedy.

For the past few nights, I've been appalled to see level 19s + camp all the low level spawns outside the entrance of blackburrow while on my level 6 Druid trying to grind. I send them tells, politely asking them to move deeper, but they just respond saying they were there first.

If you think I am just a whiny noob, I even have screenshot proof that Blackburrow is ridiculously offensive to noobs trying to level. When I was fighting on my level 12ish Rogue, another Dwarf rogue of a MUCH higher level named Bahkrel (at least 20 because he had a surname, but he was ANON) came up and backstabbed my Gnoll as I was fighting and just barely did under 50% damage. After the fight ended, he just sat there and did not acknowledge me so I /cough /rude him, and he wakes up and asks me if I know about the Rogue double backstab glitch. I tell him I've noticed that the server generally causes double attacks for killing blows (at least from what I've seen), and the rest of the conversation was as follows...

http://postimg.org/image/g23ygktyh/

He proceeded to follow me for like the next 4+ fights and took my kills by out-damaging me and insulting me. I got fed up with it, logged into my Druid and petitioned a GM for harassment. (The GMs still have not responded to me 4 days later after regular play. but whatever, I get it). When I logged into my Druid, I tried to fight the low-levelled Gnolls at the entrance but I was unluckily competing against an 18 wizard and 19 cleric, both that were soloing on their own and collecting gnoll fangs. I sent them tells, and they acted like I was an asshole for expecting level 18s to NOT be hunting in a level 5 zone. Seriously? a 19 cleric soloing? Why even roll a cleric?!

My question is, I guess, what the hell?! Is this normal behavior, and should I just roll an Iksar Necromancer and forget about socializing with people in this game? The reason I left the other shitty themepark MMOs with crappy communities is because, well, they had crappy communities.

Anyways, I'm not sure why I'm posting this other than to hopefully to ask a question. What is the acceptable level for hunting in Blackburrow? Is it actually OK for people to horde Gnoll Fangs their whole lives until they level to 30? or should they leave the nest at 16?

I will admit I made this post a bit angrily, so sorry if it comes off as a rant.

[StinkyGreenBud]

That is the norm for BB. Every toon for them selves pretty much in that zone. The rest of the world is much better behaved.

[jaybone]

This really makes the thread where a GM responds to someone calling a person in TMO a faggot in a few minutes embarrassing.

[bartly]

Problem solved.

Come to red99. Someone steals your kill? Kill them.

Or die tryin.

[Rathnir]

People are pretty buckwild about their gnoll fangs, I don't quite get it. Not aware of other more interesting things to do, I suppose. I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment of your post, but I will point out a few things (not to trying to aggravate, just information):

• "/report Bahkrel" will send the GMs a log of the last 10 lines of text interaction (/tell, /say, /ooc etc., not melee hits)
  
• /petition gets heavily bogged down, often with pretty inane things. You will get a much better response if you leave a single long (informative) petition then two short ones.
  
• The elites, splitpaw commanders, gnoll high shaman and maybe a few others I'm forgetting are still dark blue at level 17. So some of those people are still viably getting experience from fighting in the zone. I was on an alt the other day taking a 3 spawn of the elites, and eventually just gave up on it when a level 9 ranger and his ~50 ranger friend were clearing the whole zone top to bottom, checking the only 3 I was after every round.

The rogue you encountered is a pretty bad welcoming committee to the server, and poorly represents the other players around. But I highly recommend the "que sera" mentality. You can't fix stupidity or greed. You will come across both here at every level.

[purpherb]

My toon is camped in bb and has been for the past few levels. I have found that the norm is a bunch of lvl 12+ characters running around the zone farming fangs, which I do as well. But there is also people who are under level 10. When I first got to bb though I formed a group and we camped the bridge. I have done this multiple times without trouble. There was still people running through the zone, but when we were camped on the bridge our mobs were generally left to us.

I don't think you should tell people they are too high to farm there because they obviously are not. If they were too high than they would not be getting xp and it would be a waste of time for them, but it is not because those fangs grant massive xp. If you approach someone the wrong way it will only get worse for you.

Sorry that some guy was a prick to you, I have had lmvery few problems in the hours I have been in bb and actually know many of the other farmers there and we all say hi and help each other as needed (giving me those furs for a quest). Since bb has such a high xp rate the competition is to be expected, but the griefing is not. If you want a chance at such good xp than you will have to find yourself a spot like everyone else does or just go to a different zone where the xp is not so great.

[Doors]

Roll red, kill person annoying you, loot gnoll fang.

[Quineloe]

I don't know if petition here works like it did 15 years ago, but back then when you double petition, you just delete the first one. Don't think of petition as /tell gm.

Even if it doesn't, you should try to make as long a statement as possible. If writing the petition is only worth 5 seconds of your time...

[Fregar]

Complaining in or about blackburrow doesn't bring anything good imo.

I've never had any serious problem in this zone o.0
Some peoples even saved me from certain death several times.
The rogue thing is a unusual behavior. Did you provoke him?

It can be annoying to see lvl 20 peoples when you are lvl 8, but what can you say when you might be the one lvl 20 a few days later?
Peoples are still killing greens because the xp from fangs is obviously worth it.
Getting the xp from a blue mob or from a green drop is the same thing in the end: xp per time invested.

Etiquette is this zone roughly is:
_there is no camp, everything is FFA
_first to engage gets the mob(s)
_no ks
_no complaining

[BahamutDF]

BB is kind of a free for all. But in a weird way, for me, it's always kind of been a polite FFA. I'd get random buffs, heals, etc one second from a stranger, then be competing with them for pops the next, and after we'd be bullshitting together.

Never had any problems.