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Bracer of Hammerfall - Sentry Kale and Ungdin Issues
Sentry Kale - Bracer of Hammerfall
Issue 1: Ungdin did not return the <A shipment of Velium Ore> after being given the <Velium Delivery Note> and, separately, 50pp. Issue 2: Sentry Kale does not give the quest dialogue when prompted at dubious faction, or dubious + alliance faction. Kindadar and I were trying this quest out. I'm at Dorf amiable and CoV dubious, with and without the alliance necklace. Kindadar is max ally with cov/dorfs. Issue 1: Ungdin appears to be broken. Kindadar turned in the Note first. Received the proper text from Ungdin asking for a bribe of 50pp. Kindadar then turned in 50pp and received nothing. He tried another 50pp and still nothing. Issue 2: Sentry Kale would not speak to me at dubious faction: [Mon Mar 17 10:02:37 2014] You say, 'Hail, Sentry Kale' [Mon Mar 17 10:02:37 2014] Sentry Kale says, 'You must prove your worth before I will discuss such matters with you.' [Mon Mar 17 10:03:12 2014] You begin casting Alliance. [Mon Mar 17 10:03:12 2014] Sentry Kale looks friendly. [Mon Mar 17 10:03:14 2014] Sentry Kale glowers at you dubiously -- You could probably win this fight. [Mon Mar 17 10:03:17 2014] Sentry Kale says, 'You must prove your worth before I will discuss such matters with you.' Edit: Sentry Kale would not speak to me at indifferent (via charm) faction either. There is evidence that during 2000/2001 people could do this quest while dubious and that they could get the proper quest dialogue while sneaking for indifferent faction. The February 23, 2014 patch disables the sneaking ability for this quest as the NPC will not respond to /say while sneaking. Nov. 2001 Quote:
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Last edited by Ele; 03-19-2014 at 10:00 AM..
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k, so there needs to be 3 different Sentry Kale spawns? From what I can tell, he has a chance of spawning with either the quest for choker, bracer, or ring.
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That is correct. I wasn't able to test if he was implemented as the 3 different quest giving versions due to faction issues atm.
But he should spawn randomly giving one of his three quests at anyone time. You can however complete any of his quests with any of the three versions. If he isn't giving the proper quest you want to start, then you have to kill him or have someone kill him for you. Sentry Emil should be the same way with his broken and working quests. 1. Bosenberry Pie -- Forever broken - http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/e...ML/000358.html 2. Emil's Report -- https://web.archive.org/web/20010420...tml?quest=1203 There are anecdotes in the link for Emil's Report with people saying Emil was asking for pie, but accepted their turn in for the Report quest. | ||
Last edited by Ele; 03-18-2014 at 11:51 AM..
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Do the separate spawns have different models? As of yesterday he was in the brewery room in golem form, but he is in drake form on the wiki (I am aware of the issues of using that as a reference point). I have also never seen him up in the location specified on the wiki, I just hit a wall and saw him in that room.
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I did this quest on eqmac extensively. It only like 4k to 5k pp to go from dubious to ally. Each turn in of Velium shipment was +25 Cov faction.
1. you should be able to do this at dubious faction it was locked this faction requirement on on eqmac. This quest was nerfed some time into veliuos on live ( i do not have data on the nerf application) to require warmly faction to even get the sentry to talk to you. 2. With the amount of platinum and resources players have amassed here in p1999, it is child's play to max out COV and Yelniak faction through this quest. for any class. 3. 1 rezer next to sentry kale make corpse , porter to get faction req class to great divide . rezer next to ungdin give note get velium shipment rez in skyshrine boom turn in shipment get new note rez body next to ungind turn in. so on and so on. 4. I did this with 4 characters( not all same time) total time from dubiuos to ally just under 3hrs rez timers. On eqmac Sentry kale was on 20min timer so if wrong version of him was up just killed him and then waited and kept trying to correct version was up. PS on eqmac it did not matter how you got to dubious faction or better invis /sneak etc etc it still worked for turn ins. the bracer could be rare but if you was going to grind out the quest for 3hrs you could 4 to 10 of them. was what i averaged on my 4 toons.
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Last edited by Buellen; 03-19-2014 at 02:32 AM..
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on further though a simpler solution to stop the quick grind to ally with cov would be to have sentry kale despawn when velium shipment is turned.
just my thoughts
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found information on faction changed on live to warmly to do this quest
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=969 Dec 18 2002 aerowen posted about revamp of sky shrine and mentioned faction changes. The posts following this one talk about the new faction requirement to this quest. I understand that these dates are past our current time line. Leaving a requirement of dubious will result in COV ally faction just costing the players 4k to 5k plat and some willing clerics/rezers for a few hours. Thanks for listening
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Last edited by Buellen; 03-19-2014 at 03:32 AM..
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Another source http://www.castle-grounds.co.uk/eq/hammerfalquest.htm Version 120701
Also indicates that quest should be able to be initiated at indifferent faction via sneak. The current implementation of NPC's not speaking to people they can't see prevents this feature of sneak questing. Quote:
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Been trying to confirm the velium retrieval quest and I can't find him up, been sitting at his spawn for about an hour now and nothing.
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