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![]() Bard's level 54 PBAE snare (Selo's Assonant Strane) should randomly break, similar to a charm or more obviously a root. Evidence:
Thott's Musing on Bards Quote:
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![]() More Evidence, October 2000
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![]() They only mention the slow aspect in that quote directly above and not the snare portion of the song. Perhaps only the slow portions is not affected by strings or epic?
Can we find any info related to them testing instrument effectiveness related to the song or later patch notes regarding the snare or slow component?
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![]() I've looked and if it was fixed at a later date, it went unmentioned in patch notes and on their website.
Though it wouldn't be the first bard song where 1 part is modified and 1 part isn't (see Cantata where HP regen is modded and Mana isn't) But I assumed both were unmodded since it's pretty easy to see them slow down physically with Runspeed, and then see that a stringed instrument doesn't change that. As compared to judging the melee speed of a mob.
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![]() https://web.archive.org/web/20010208...gs/song54a.htm
This page's last update, shortly after Velious is released. Quote:
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Last edited by zanderklocke; 06-13-2014 at 04:59 PM..
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![]() Sounds like it was fixed in early Velious with the instrument mod. Time to see what patches occurred in that range.
And I don't know how you're reading it that way Tecmos. What he is saying is that due to 12s, the snare is breaking because resists allow minimal time to get another cast in. The bolded part in the quote explicitly states it breaks randomly.
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"Random snare breaks happen when a mob resists the snare effect that's active, for bards, this is always true: if the mob resists the reapplication of the song, it will break snare. The level 54 snare, Selo's Assonant Strane, was missed when this change was done. It still breaks randomly, giving it a double penalty where other classes have none at all. I was told it would be fixed, but since then, the person that said that has moved on to another department/job. I can only assume this was lost in the shuffle." You just focused on the ONE time the word "randomly" was used without the context of this guy giving "random snare breaks" a specific defintion. Quote:
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![]() I still think that "if the mob resists the reapplication of the song, it will break snare." refers to the short duration of the song and the inability to refresh it in time.
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