Log Parsers. Final Verdict?

[Poeskas]

Recently, log parsers were discussed on Sirken's stream (At the beginning of this video). In this case, we're talking about Gamtext, etc, and map generators to a lesser extent. I know log parsers have been discussed before on numerous occasions and generally dismissed as acceptable since they don't read or modify game memory. But, in the stream I linked above, Sirken has said they may try to ban them in the future. Can we get some kind of confirmation on this rule change? Is Gamtext banned from now on? For the record, I don't use log parsers of any kind these days (not even Gamparse), especially after watching that stream.

[Thulack]

Lol to sirken saying they may try to ban log parsers. No they arent illegal and the day they are made illegal is the day you might aswell quit p99 cause everyone will have gone mad.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol to sirken saying they may try to ban log parsers. No they arent illegal and the day they are made illegal is the day you might aswell quit p99 cause everyone will have gone mad.

i have always said very specifically that damage parsing was classic and would be left alone, and if we could hit nerds using maps and audio triggers, we would. but thanks for putting words in my mouth <3

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have always said very specifically that damage parsing was classic and would be left alone, and if we could hit nerds using maps and audio triggers, we would. but thanks for putting words in my mouth <3

I was quoting the OP sir. I'm not one to partake in your stream or watch VoD's of it.

Originally Posted by Poeskas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Recently, log parsers were discussed on Sirken's stream (At the beginning of this video). In this case, we're talking about Gamtext, etc, and map generators to a lesser extent. I know log parsers have been discussed before on numerous occasions and generally dismissed as acceptable since they don't read or modify game memory. But, in the stream I linked above, Sirken has said they may try to ban them in the future. Can we get some kind of confirmation on this rule change? Is Gamtext banned from now on? For the record, I don't use log parsers of any kind these days (not even Gamparse), especially after watching that stream.

[curtischoy]

How could they even see a program that simply parses my log file? if they could do that couldn't they then see basically anything on my computer?

Also, shit's classic.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by curtischoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How could they even see a program that simply parses my log file? if they could do that couldn't they then see basically anything on my computer?

Also, shit's classic.

They can see anything you are running on your PC. Its how they find hacks or know if you are boxing on the same PC.

[Daldaen]

GamParse and GamText triggers they won't ban.

They just want to ban Log readers that actively plot your point on a map.

Which you wouldn't be able to do in classic because you only had 1 chat window and 1 hot button page, so you couldn't spam it with /loc every second otherwise you couldn't see anything! Plus no alt tabbing and such.

[evilkorn]

I could see them snifing for the audio trigger exe and the mapping softwares. It just depends on how strict they want to be. It's really out of our control. We hear the same thing every time there is a change that was in the game for us that we got used to and got taken out.

Personally I don't think they impact the game from a PvE standpoint, but I can see it being imbalanced for maybe outdoor PvP knowing where you are exactly against another. Even then people generally safe and aware of where they are most of the time.

[tristantio]

To me it seems like log parsing is classic (although Norrath Map overlay is taking it a step further).

[sambal]

Well, even ahungry.com is kind of a log parser! I'd hate for them to ban them outright.