Spells: Healing Spam from MOK

Exmo · #1 10-02-2015, 12:08 AM

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December 4th, 6:00 am
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*** Welcome to Luclin ***

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** Spell Changes **

- Spells that heal less than 10 points of damage will not generate a message to the player.

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- Cindy Archuleta
Community Relations Manager
Sony Online Entertainment

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4492

We should be seeing healing spam in the Logs from Mark of Karn.

More Evidence here:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=90925

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[Wed Nov 07 18:18:02 2001] You try to punch Trooper Syenn, but miss!
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:03 2001] You have been healed for 4 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:03 2001] You punch Trooper Syenn for 29 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:03 2001] You have been healed for 4 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:03 2001] You punch Trooper Syenn for 27 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:04 2001] You try to kick Trooper Syenn, but miss!
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:04 2001] You have been healed for 4 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:04 2001] You punch Trooper Syenn for 32 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:04 2001] You try to punch Trooper Syenn, but miss!
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:05 2001] You try to punch Trooper Syenn, but miss!
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:05 2001] You have been healed for 4 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:05 2001] You punch Trooper Syenn for 20 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:06 2001] You crush Trooper Syenn for 12 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:06 2001] You crush Trooper Syenn for 53 points of damage.
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:06 2001] You try to punch Trooper Syenn, but miss!
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:06 2001] You try to punch Trooper Syenn, but miss!
[Wed Nov 07 18:18:07 2001] You crush Trooper Syenn for 26 points of damage.

Ele · #2 10-02-2015, 08:52 AM

sweet

Daldaen · #3 10-02-2015, 09:01 AM

I approve.

Nuggie · #4 10-03-2015, 09:14 PM

+1 for classic quest.

**nilbog** · #5 01-21-2026, 12:49 PM

I can make this work, but before changing anything there are other healing messages in the same area.

1. Should any 'heal over time' spells generate messages? Celestial Healing for example currently displays 'You have healed name for X points of damage.' Not sure if that should be the case and a quick search didn't provide evidence.

2. Right now, it looks like any healing message is blocked if it is less than 100hp. Pre-Luclin, the amount healed should be irrelevant, correct?

3. Additionally, I see healing spells are providing the name of the caster to the recipient. According to logs and this patch from 2003, it doesn't seem that should be the case. Any differing opinions or research?

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- Healing Messages now include the name of the healer - In order to make it
clearer who has healed you, we have changed the message that you receive
when healed. It will now include the name of the character casting the
healing spell: "Bob has healed you for 300 points of damage".

Rygar · #6 01-21-2026, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3. Additionally, I see healing spells are providing the name of the caster to the recipient. According to logs and this patch from 2003, it doesn't seem that should be the case. Any differing opinions or research?

Here is a log from may 2002 of a ranger tanking AoW, many heal messages and all in the format of "You have been healed for [X] points of damage". So doesn't look like name was added even in early Luclin
https://web.archive.org/web/20050313...hp?t-2734.html

will continue to look for heal over time messages.

Rygar · #7 01-21-2026, 02:05 PM

Thinking heals over time does not give you a heal message. Evidence:
https://web.archive.org/web/20020821...c&f=1&t=002305

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[Fri Jul 05 04:15:08 2002] Dordolin begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:08 2002] Katriza begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:10 2002] Katriza winces.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:11 2002] Celestial light pumps through your body.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:13 2002] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:13 2002] ---------------------------
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:13 2002] [ANONYMOUS] Ayria
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:13 2002] There is 1 player in Cazic-Thule.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:16 2002] Katriza begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:18 2002] Tarkhis tells auction:1, 'wanted to buy robe and idol for potc earring'
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:24 2002] Krash is surrounded by a thorny barrier.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:24 2002] You told armylenn, 'you helped ks'.. .good job'
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:24 2002] Krash Scores a critical hit!(140)
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:27 2002] Katriza begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:30 2002] Katriza winces.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:30 2002] Dordolin tells the group, 'i really hate triton'
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:34 2002] Katriza begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Jul 05 04:15:35 2002] The celestial light fades.

I seem to recall heals over time were actually short duration regen buffs, so were probably didn't generate a message?

Kich867 · #8 01-21-2026, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. Right now, it looks like any healing message is blocked if it is less than 100hp. Pre-Luclin, the amount healed should be irrelevant, correct?

Not sure if this matters / anyone cares but as I was just playing my necro alt last night, my Dark Mending does report the 30hp it heals or whatever, but my Mend Bones on my pet does not, both are much less than 100hp healed.

Not sure if Dark Mending type spells go through a different path to report its numbers or if thats intended or what.

Rygar · #9 01-21-2026, 02:11 PM

Another snippet from a cleric apparently healing himself. Possible log lines were filtered tho
https://web.archive.org/web/20010529...topic&index=93

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[Fri May 04 20:21:49 2001] You tell your party, 'CASTING CELESTIAL HEAL ON Worthy!!!!'

[Fri May 04 20:21:49 2001] You begin casting Celestial Healing.

[Fri May 04 20:21:49 2001] Stormner tells the group, 'MW is already here'

[Fri May 04 20:21:53 2001] Celestial light pumps through your body.

[Fri May 04 20:21:56 2001] Reynor says out of character, 'second otter camp please, people who are helping =)'

[Fri May 04 20:22:13 2001] Stormner tells the group, 'to chardok'

[Fri May 04 20:22:14 2001] Reynor says out of character, 'you helping with dragon?'

[Fri May 04 20:22:16 2001] Qalas tells the group, 'it's our fish'

[Fri May 04 20:22:20 2001] You tell your party, 'WAIT!'

[Fri May 04 20:22:21 2001] Keyria tells the group, 'oh ya huh I forgot about those ladys in the water'

[Fri May 04 20:22:32 2001] You tell your party, 'I need a ride! Where are you?'

[Fri May 04 20:22:53 2001] Youoway tells the group, 'why are we here?'
[Fri May 04 20:23:01 2001] Stormner tells the group, 'MW has it'

[Fri May 04 20:23:04 2001] Stormner tells the group, 'its not ours'

[Fri May 04 20:23:04 2001] an Othmir Shaman begins to cast a spell.

[Fri May 04 20:23:06 2001] Qalas tells the group, 'they do?'

[Fri May 04 20:23:08 2001] You tell your party, 'CASTING CELESTIAL HEAL ON Keyria!!!!'

[Fri May 04 20:23:10 2001] Stormner tells the group, 'yes'

[Fri May 04 20:23:15 2001] Stormner tells the group, 'they will KS it '

[Fri May 04 20:23:33 2001] You told Jenae, 'Talk to Youoway, ask him what is going on.'

[Fri May 04 20:23:37 2001] Youoway says, 'Guard Dungwatch is Dondors hero'

[Fri May 04 20:23:38 2001] Tillven bonks Stormner on the head!

[Fri May 04 20:23:42 2001] Keyria tells the group, '10 copper yay'

[Fri May 04 20:23:44 2001] Dondor says, 'WOOT )))))'

[Fri May 04 20:23:45 2001] Jenae tells you, 'Did you keep a log?'

**nilbog** · #10 01-21-2026, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if this matters / anyone cares but as I was just playing my necro alt last night, my Dark Mending does report the 30hp it heals or whatever, but my Mend Bones on my pet does not, both are much less than 100hp healed.

Not sure if Dark Mending type spells go through a different path to report its numbers or if thats intended or what.

Dark Empathy? That would be considered a lifetap I believe, and follow a different code path (not direct heals).