Game Mechanics: Sneak/FD Memblur

[Daldaen]

This has been mentioned many times, but it certainly deserves its own thread.

Sneak + FD when used in conjunction are vastly overpowered and not-classic.

This is the problem:

1. If you aggro any number of mobs (1 or 100 it doesn't matter)
2. You FD
3. You activate a successful Sneak

Once you stand, with sneak active, you are guaranteed a 100% chance that EVERY mob you previously had aggro on will memblur.

This is wrong, and there is no evidence I can find to support this ever being on live.

When standing from an FD every mob should have a random chance at membluring itself. This chance should increase based on successive FDs. So for 1 or 2 mobs you have a decent shot of membluring them, but it isn't guaranteed (RNG based) Atleast until they get back to their spawn points.

However now, you can guarantee a successful blur on any number of mobs due to this bug. It has persisted for far too long.

[EQsale]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has been mentioned many times, but it certainly deserves its own thread.

Sneak + FD when used in conjunction are vastly overpowered and not-classic.

This is the problem:

1. If you aggro any number of mobs (1 or 100 it doesn't matter)
2. You FD
3. You activate a successful Sneak

Once you stand, with sneak active, you are guaranteed a 100% chance that EVERY mob you previously had aggro on will memblur.

This is wrong, and there is no evidence I can find to support this ever being on live.

When standing from an FD every mob should have a random chance at membluring itself. This chance should increase based on successive FDs. So for 1 or 2 mobs you have a decent shot of membluring them, but it isn't guaranteed (RNG based) Atleast until they get back to their spawn points.

However now, you can guarantee a successful blur on any number of mobs due to this bug. It has persisted for far too long.

That is not correct

[Pint]

It is correct as long as the sneak was successful and nothing is facing you. Something that ppl are also not mentioning is that monks can exploit this in combat to wipe their aggro, essentially a very op version of rogue evade.

[EQsale]

so a monk FDing in combat too wipe his aggro is considered a exploit now? really

[Daldaen]

FDing to drop you on aggro, or to have a chance at a Memblur when in combat is working at intend.

What isn't working is being guaranteed a 100% chance Memblur if you are standing from your FD with Sneak active. That is being used by every monk on the server and it's pretty broken.

There's a reason monks had to /quit out a lot on live. They almost never do here, and when they do it's usually not because of uncertainty on aggro dump.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by EQsale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so a monk FDing in combat too wipe his aggro is considered a exploit now? really

yes when it works 9/10 times

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by EQsale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is not correct

yes it is

didn't play a monk on live and can't remember shit about FD mechanics, but i will agree that the way it currently works is incredibly overpowered/stupid

[eisley]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes it is

didn't play a monk on live and can't remember shit about FD mechanics, but i will agree that the way it currently works is incredibly overpowered/stupid

it's actually not true as OP wrote it, there is one minor but important distinction:

memblur only occurs if the monk stands while the mob is facing away. if it's facing you (even out of aggro range) it will reaggro, unless it otherwise blurred randomly

[Bones]

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's actually not true as OP wrote it, there is one minor but important distinction:

memblur only occurs if the monk stands while the mob is facing away. if it's facing you (even out of aggro range) it will reaggro, unless it otherwise blurred randomly

This. It's just not really noticed because monks almost always sneak + stand when the mobs they are trying to split are all facing away and pathing back toward their spawn.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's actually not true as OP wrote it, there is one minor but important distinction:

memblur only occurs if the monk stands while the mob is facing away. if it's facing you (even out of aggro range) it will reaggro, unless it otherwise blurred randomly

yea no shit, don't think anyone thought otherwise though