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I was with a skilled enchanter the other day in group. It was humbling. Charmed NPC dps is amazing. I sang mana songs and snared, when charm broke I helped by mezzing the former pet while he recharmed etc. So I was not useless but it seemed like replacing me with another chanter would have made the group even better.
My question: at higher levels are bards passed over for groups? Do we compete with enchanters for group desirability? At high levels are there a zillion enchanters and fewer bards? I would like to raid on my bard; is there a glut of high end bards already? | ||
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I wouldn't totally discount your role in helping with breaks. When you have a Dire Wolf doubling for 250 or a Siren quadding for 180 with 70% haste and a Steel Hilted Flint Dagger, they can rip through a cloth class very easily. Having another class who can freely cast stun/mez or even root without having to channel through that really helps even an on-the-ball enchanter. So I think at high levels (= NPCs > 50) charm is much more a team effort.
Enchanters are so incredibly good because they fulfill two roles in the group (dps + cc/buffs). Shamans (tanking + cc/buffs) and Monks (tanking + pulling + dps) are superb for the same reason. Bards can do this too, though, by complementing their natural cc/buffs combination with either tanking (gear for AC and cast snare for aggro) or pulling (split with lull and then use the SS helm to pull mobs into camp while you sing songs normally). Bards have a more interesting endgame role (enchanters mostly just buff) although really the only endgame role that matters is COH mage for FTE /cry Anyway, in my opinion the best four classes in Classic EQ are Enchanter, Monk, Shaman, and Bard in some order. So you can't go wrong either way. | ||
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I think bards are more in demand at the moment due to lack of supply. For raids anyways.
Enchanter can solo in more places, pre velious. Not sure in velious.
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As a bard, my favorite groups involve an enchanter and bard together. Get a few dps together, a solid tank and cleric, and a bard can pull and over pull because everyone's going to have mana and the mobs are going to die super fast.
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I would consider replacing any other dps class if another enchanter was available, while keeping the bard as they are providing at the very least more mana regen for the party. | |||
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Bard is a better raid class atm. Ideally, all or near-all raid groups would have bards in them. You really only need 2-4 enchanters for the vast majority of raids. As interactive and fun as the Enchanter class can be -- Bard is one of the only classes that is even more interactive and has even more possible uses.
It's hard to say who is faster at leveling. Enchanters get easy chardok groups...but Bards have swarm kiting. Both can charm or group (but id give the edge to enchanter here). | ||
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