George Washington "a Prophet"

[Blitzers]

G. Washington farewell address

I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

[jolanar]

Washington could probably have been King if he wanted to. Stepping down from power after 2 turns was his greatest contribution.

[Pokesan]

if only his prescience had allowed him to foresee that slavery is immoral i might give a damn about his opinion

can you imagine that?

[Pokesan]

he a stank ass woodtoothed bitch

[Goliathan]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if only his prescience had allowed him to foresee that slavery is immoral i might give a damn about his opinion

can you imagine that?

Morals change over time. I'm sure some would argue that without the aspect of slavery our country would have had a much harder time growing as quickly as it did. Is it right? No. But it was their world. There were slave owners who felt that the act was repugnant but had little other choice if they wished to survive.

Morals evolve as society does.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if only his prescience had allowed him to foresee that slavery is immoral i might give a damn about his opinion

can you imagine that?

Love this argument. The founding fathers are completely discredited because they owned slaves. Yet those who want to discredit the founding fathers are consistently spamming anti Semitic rants throughout the blogosphere including many on these forums...

These people would cry a red river of Left wing blood if you compared them to Hitler, but THEY espouse the same ideology of Hitler. Maybe you should discredit yourselves, hypocrites.

[AzzarTheGod]

*checks calendar* yes about time for me to make another "anti Semitic" post.

[iruinedyourday]

Of the nine presidents who were slaveholders, only George Washington freed all his own slaves upon his death. Washington gradually came to realize that slavery was immoral and contrary to the Revolutionary ideals of liberty and equality. In 1774 he endorsed a document, known as the Fairfax Resolves, which condemned the slave trade as “unnatural” and recommended that no more slaves be imported into the British colonies. Five years later, he approved a plan to grant slaves their freedom in exchange for service in the Continental Army.

[Pokesan]

*venerates man who owned humans as property*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps7xmW-9LXQ

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of the nine presidents who were slaveholders, only George Washington freed all his own slaves upon his death. Washington gradually came to realize that slavery was immoral and contrary to the Revolutionary ideals of liberty and equality. In 1774 he endorsed a document, known as the Fairfax Resolves, which condemned the slave trade as “unnatural” and recommended that no more slaves be imported into the British colonies. Five years later, he approved a plan to grant slaves their freedom in exchange for service in the Continental Army.

Sounds like he was working within the system to enact meaningful change. Pokesan would probably preferred a ruthless dictator's approach.

Whether he owned slaves or not is moot, I don't see any other big slave countries like Italy or Greece bashing the ancient philosophers and Emperors over their ownership and continuation of slavery.

Its a fuckass thing to do to sully the founding fathers over this.