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![]() Im confused, are you opposed to the US going after Isis or taking the oil while we do it?
I'm for both.
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Do we just invade and flood Syria with American troops? What happens when they put away their black flags and towels and start planting IED's as 'civilians'? How would it be any different than Iraq, Vietnam, or Afghanistan when, over 10 years and hundreds of billions of dollars later, we'd have accomplished nothing and probably just made things worse? You cannot "win" a counter-insurgency occupation under the current rules of engagement. People who support deploying American troops against ISIS are fucking retarded. The only way to win the war against Islam without systematically exterminating Muslims is to: 1. Achieve energy independence from Arab oil. 2. Enact a policy of economic, cultural, and social containment where Islamic countries (or any country with a non-secular culture/constitution/government) aren't allowed to consort with the rest of the world, and certainly not allowed to immigrate unless extensively vetted. 3. Weather the inevitable terrorist attacks without flying off the handle and invading somewhere, which is exactly what they want. Retribution comes by persevering with #1 and #2, continuing to allow Western life to flourish and the Middle East to rot until they figure out how to get their own shit together. The way you don't win a war against Islam is: 1. Hand-delivering valuable Western lives to their shithole countries where life is meaningless and suicide attacks are ubiquitous, and crippling our own domestic development by squandering hundreds of billions of dollars on nothing. It was Bin Laden's plan and it's ISIS's goal. | |||
Last edited by Lune; 07-29-2016 at 09:35 PM..
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I can understand not supporting this, or doubting that the political will exists to actually execute such activities, but in theory it's not nearly as bad for the country as diving into an unwinnable quagmire just to funnel taxpayer money into some defense contracting companies. Imperialism has been profitable before and I'm positive it could be again if carried out properly. | |||
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It's been the dems rattling the sword about boots on the ground in Syria (along with some rep neocons), and while supporting a proxy war vs. Russia. Even that's not good enough now, we are practically in the era of the Cuban missile crisis again, but reversed, we put them next to Russia blatantly breaking the treaty, and no dems take note. Where's code pink? Where's all the war protesters now? Oh yeah... it's not really an issue of war, but who gets to wage it, really [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Here's how the voting played out for the Iraq War resolution: Republican: 215 Yes, 6 No Democrat : 82 Yes, 126 No You are beyond ignorant. | |||
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See, 100% proved my point. 0boma carried Gulf War II longer than Bush, after running on how wrong it was and promises of getting out. That's only the tip of the iceberg, 0bama and the dems are HAWKS, to the bone. Fun point: you brought up Vietnam, since that was LBJ. See, if it's a Rep then it's the Reps fault. But if Dem, its America's fault. That's some deep denial... Quote:
--- edit I'll just add a reminder note here: Twice not voting for W, voted other. Never once supported nation building, I debated years with reps telling them it'll never work; it's a land of dictators, period. The neocons in both parties do nothing but fight over who is going to do it, that's it. Oh, so to not come off as a total hippie peacenik, I did support Gulf War I. Shouldn't have stopped there though, I didn't support sanctions at all. Iraq should have been smashed and a new dictator installed :P Clinton, the Germans and the French raped the country for 8 years.
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Last edited by Daywolf; 07-29-2016 at 11:10 PM..
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(Not that they invaded, but the mass immigration and coddling, not letting it rot so to speak) | |||
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