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Considering how horrid bard damage is, I was wondering what level would it be more beneficial for the group to just drop the stat stick and just jam out ?
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I would say 34ish..you get your first cantana, can twist that with various other tools depending on group make up..
You can twist haste, mana chant, psalm, catanan and throw a dot here and there if your groups DPS is solid etc.. The thing about bard is play it to the situation. Probably the most versatile class in everquest. | ||
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Oh boy, this thread actually has a full page worth of discussion suggesting playing nothing but DoTs in groups.
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When I would twist songs at low levels I would use melee weapons and right before cantana went off I would equip my lute. Kinda a PITA but I think people who don't know how to bard get pissy when you don't melee sometimes.
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at 46 you can do more than 130/tick with just the 3 ranged dots while equipping a drum. Your weapons probably can't keep up with that. That damage is quite reliable too, other than the sporadic nature of weapon damage.
Generally i would say i switched more and more to instruments starting in the late 30ties. | ||
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I suppose it all depends on your weapons and instruments.
In the example above, 130dmg between 3 songs means each song is doing what, about 43dmg? Depending on your instrument modifier, switching to melee could mean each song dropping to about 30d'ish mg - so 90dmg with weapons out vs 130 without. So as long as your weapons do 40dmg per tick then you're pulling even, and with a haste item, haste song, and decent weapons, you should be hitting that. I dunno, maybe I did Bard completely wrong, but I found that the vast majority of times it was worth meleeing. | ||
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Equipping an instrument applies the instrument modifier to the dot damage. if your isntrument has strength 21 (mistmoore battle drums, easy to get) than your damage increases by a factor of 2.1. So the 130 will be a bit more than 60 without instruments. Hard to do more than 60 damage a tick reliably with weapons as a 46 bard. Still, it's a possibility. You will have to be close to the mob though which is another inconvenience if you want to fear kite for example.
If you really *like* to swing your weapons you won't gimp yourself by doing so and applying dots at the same time, but the effort is really not needed. Quote:
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All told, though, the damage is probably not going to be a huge difference between melee + base songs vs. no melee + instrument-modified songs. Probably equates to less than a 5 or 10% variable, although that's a number I'm just guessing at. Obviously, for swarm kiting melee is out. And dragons / raid targets, I'd probably avoid melee too unless you have Siren Song / Epic and want to proc. | |||
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