Culture shock coming from WoW

[branamil]

In your typical dungeon in WoW, you enter a Queue and get randomly assigned to group with 5 strangers and teleported straight to the entrance. They've all done this one 500 times, they just need the 3 (currency of the day) to get an epic item, which costs 5,000 imaginary dungeon points. They don't have time for noobs like you. They're random strangers from other servers and you'll never see them again and you can't trade items or money with them if you are new and they have something they could use. Say you mess up and do something that's not perfect, they'll vote to kick you for increasing their grind by 1%. You'll get teleported out of the dungeon instantly with no warning, just "you have been removed from the group".

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in P99, I found that people will fall over themselves to help you. I've had give me actual *advice* instead of just silently kicking me out of the group and blocking me. If they are overgeared they've given me gear and plat since this was my first character. People running by will randomly buff you or heal you. They will take time to explain certain dungeon areas or special mob abilities. The culture shock is quite insane, it seems like people actually remember it's a *game* and want to help you.

[Nixtar]

Yes, for the most part this community is very helpful. You will still meet the occasional tryhard or someone who is suffering from extreme pixel addiction. Try not to let these people get under your skin.

Also, welcome to P99!

[loramin]

At their core both games are very similar elf simulators (eg. you can be an elf druid who levels up killing orcs and doing quests in both). However, they come from very different eras, and thus have very different philosophies. For a long time WoW's success convinced everyone (including the people making EQ) that EQ was MMOG 1.0 and WoW was MMOG 2.0 ...

... but a lot of us have found that the "improvements" actually made things a lot worse. Your story is the perfect example of that, and it's why we all <3 P99 so much. Welcome.

[EQBallzz]

Always glad to see people from games like WoW come back to a game like EQ and see what MMOs were like before WoW. It gives me hope that the MMO genre can change courses from where it is now. And I agree with your assessments. The cross server dungeon finder in WoW was pretty much the end of WoW for me. Never had worse experiences in a game than with that "innovation". Was a horrid display of the worst gamers I have ever had the displeasure of interacting with.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In your typical dungeon in WoW, you enter a Queue and get randomly assigned to group with 5 strangers and teleported straight to the entrance. They've all done this one 500 times, they just need the 3 (currency of the day) to get an epic item, which costs 5,000 imaginary dungeon points. They don't have time for noobs like you. They're random strangers from other servers and you'll never see them again and you can't trade items or money with them if you are new and they have something they could use. Say you mess up and do something that's not perfect, they'll vote to kick you for increasing their grind by 1%. You'll get teleported out of the dungeon instantly with no warning, just "you have been removed from the group".

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in P99, I found that people will fall over themselves to help you. I've had give me actual *advice* instead of just silently kicking me out of the group and blocking me. If they are overgeared they've given me gear and plat since this was my first character. People running by will randomly buff you or heal you. They will take time to explain certain dungeon areas or special mob abilities. The culture shock is quite insane, it seems like people actually remember it's a *game* and want to help you.

Welcome to p99!

The simplicity is what makes this server great and the reliance of needing others to accomplish ingame activities.

Leveling up is the best time on p99.

Once you start getting into the raid scene it is then where more of the seediness of peoples character comes out due to pixel fixations running at a level of insanity.

Anyway, just enjoy the ride, and perhaps you might find a fun niche in the raid scene too.

GL!

[Cribanox]

In original WoW you had to do the same shit

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by Cribanox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In original WoW you had to do the same shit

vanilla wow was very close to EQ in terms of philosophy yup

now, not at all

[Jimjam]

You should name and shame these terrible players who are giving away their cast offs instead of turning them for a profit in the EC market [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by Sancta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

vanilla wow was very close to EQ in terms of philosophy yup

now, not at all

WoW also ripped a lot of shit off of EQ2.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In your typical dungeon in WoW, you enter a Queue and get randomly assigned to group with 5 strangers and teleported straight to the entrance. They've all done this one 500 times, they just need the 3 (currency of the day) to get an epic item, which costs 5,000 imaginary dungeon points. They don't have time for noobs like you. They're random strangers from other servers and you'll never see them again and you can't trade items or money with them if you are new and they have something they could use. Say you mess up and do something that's not perfect, they'll vote to kick you for increasing their grind by 1%. You'll get teleported out of the dungeon instantly with no warning, just "you have been removed from the group".

This is exactly why I quit WoW. I was horde side on a server with an alliance to horde ratio of 3:1. Needless to say the horde side knew each other well because we'd know who we were in terms of PvP experience together and stuff like that. So you do your dailies and they suddenly add this bullshit where battlegroups or whatever they called them (put your server in a pool of 9-10?)...totally killed the community.

Battlegrounds were suddenly full of idiots who didn't know the basics (we always taught anyone new about not zerging in Arathi Basin etc), and generally speaking the "community" we knew was gone, because people would auto queue for instances, and work with people of other servers they wouldn't see again...so why bother talking to them?

I wasn't much of a forum user but I did go and protest why Blizzard wanted to kill communities in the name of faster pvp (we had instant BG queues anyway, and often alliance would come over to beg us to queue up)/instance queues. Where are you now, World of Warcraft? Where are you now? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair I think the sight of kung fu panda would have had me laughing my way to the unsub button anyway but you can see why vanilla WoW has such a following still.