Bard questions.

Tobius · #1 04-30-2018, 12:23 PM

I find kiting to be immersion breaking because it just seems so awkward to do, I'm not a role player or anything but it just seems ridiculous. Plus I don't have the concentration for it.

I figure I'll just slowly solo or group to level my bard.

1. My bard seems borderline encumbered all the time, yet I hear bards normally have a lot of gear to swap in and out, does str improve as you level? Should I buy weight reducing bags? Anyone else have this problem?

2. (a)Whats the lowest level a bard could solo forager cycle with shit gear?
(b) what's the lowest level a bard could duo forager cycle with a 56 warrior?
Fond memories of doing that on live with my bro, but we were comparatively twinked. compared to classic.

3. When the time comes for the above, is fear kiting the best way to do that? What gear helps fear kiting? (or what gear helps whatever better method?)

4. Any good recommendations for EZ solo camping spots?

branamil · #2 04-30-2018, 12:29 PM

1. My bard seems borderline encumbered all the time, yet I hear bards normally have a lot of gear to swap in and out, does str improve as you level? Should I buy weight reducing bags? Anyone else have this problem?

yeah. they are wusses and wear plate. Later on most items get +STR attached to them which helps.

2. (a)Whats the lowest level a bard could solo forager cycle with shit gear?
(b) what's the lowest level a bard could duo forager cycle with a 56 warrior?
Fond memories of doing that on live with my bro, but we were comparatively twinked. compared to classic.

Umm.. 40? 45? You can kill them as long as Fulfils will land. The hardest thing is avoiding the shaman roamers. Just twist selos/fulfils/chant of flame, kite until they die.

3. When the time comes for the above, is fear kiting the best way to do that? What gear helps fear kiting? (or what gear helps whatever better method?)

Kite with selos and chants. All you need is a drum

4. Any good recommendations for EZ solo camping spots?[/QUOTE]

Dont see your level mentioned.

Legidias · #3 04-30-2018, 12:40 PM

Fear kiting will always be the best way for those single target kills. Don't just selos and run kite. If they chase you, DoT's only do 75% dmg while mobs are moving, but if feared they do 100%.

You will want to be about 50(+) to do cycle completely. You can kill the forage / hunter at a much lower level, but GL not dying to Harbinger nukes when your fear barely lands and he nukes you to death.

Tobius · #4 04-30-2018, 12:40 PM

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1. My bard seems borderline encumbered all the time, yet I hear bards normally have a lot of gear to swap in and out, does str improve as you level? Should I buy weight reducing bags? Anyone else have this problem?

yeah. they are wusses and wear plate. Later on most items get +STR attached to them which helps.

2. (a)Whats the lowest level a bard could solo forager cycle with shit gear?
(b) what's the lowest level a bard could duo forager cycle with a 56 warrior?
Fond memories of doing that on live with my bro, but we were comparatively twinked. compared to classic.

Umm.. 40? 45? You can kill them as long as Fulfils will land. The hardest thing is avoiding the shaman roamers. Just twist selos/fulfils/chant of flame, kite until they die.

3. When the time comes for the above, is fear kiting the best way to do that? What gear helps fear kiting? (or what gear helps whatever better method?)

Kite with selos and chants. All you need is a drum

4. Any good recommendations for EZ solo camping spots?

Tobius · #5 04-30-2018, 12:44 PM

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Fear kiting will always be the best way for those single target kills. Don't just selos and run kite. If they chase you, DoT's only do 75% dmg while mobs are moving, but if feared they do 100%.

You will want to be about 50(+) to do cycle completely. You can kill the forage / hunter at a much lower level, but GL not dying to Harbinger nukes when your fear barely lands and he nukes you to death.

Thanks for this I did think the previous dude omitted the idea of getting nuked by casters.

So you don't think the warrior could take enough aggro to take the nukes before he had to flee? Does hitting a feared mob break it?

Perhaps I'll aim for 50, what special gear helps with fear kiting?

EDIT: If you root or snare a feared target does it act not feared and stay and fight?

branamil · #6 04-30-2018, 12:46 PM

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Fear kiting will always be the best way for those single target kills. Don't just selos and run kite.

Not "always". With fear you can't control the pathing, which sucks in a zone with roamers. And if it's much higher level than you, your fear will get resisted and it will turn and hit you, and you'll have to kite it to heal anyways.

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If they chase you, DoT's only do 75% dmg while mobs are moving, but if feared they do 100%.

So? The question is to kill a quest mob at a low level, not farm XP as fast as possible

Tobius · #7 04-30-2018, 12:56 PM

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Not "always". With fear you can't control the pathing, which sucks in a zone with roamers. And if it's much higher level than you, your fear will get resisted and it will turn and hit you, and you'll have to kite it to heal anyways.

So? The question is to kill a quest mob at a low level, not farm XP as fast as possible

I guess the warrior could pre-preemptively kill the roamers or at least zone them before they aggro...

Yeah exp ain't the aim, it's fun and platinum from selling the items.

To clarify are you saying if you get wounded you'd stop fearing and conventionally kite and sing heal song?

matticas · #8 04-30-2018, 01:01 PM

Where's Jauna when ya need? Dude hates bards

Triiz · #9 04-30-2018, 02:05 PM

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Umm.. 40? 45? You can kill them as long as Fulfils will land. The hardest thing is avoiding the shaman roamers. Just twist selos/fulfils/chant of flame, kite until they die.

Not sure if you were responding to his question of what level to solo forager cycle or duo it with the 56 war, but just to be clear to OP there is zero chance a lvl 40-45 bard could solo the 50 wizard that drops Iksar Hide Mask. One ice comet and a few rounds of melee and you are dead. Fear wouldn't land and you couldn't even hope to mez him, Song of Twilight is a level 53 song and wiki says Pixie Strike only mez's up to 45.

Canelek · #10 04-30-2018, 02:14 PM

Level 22 bard? At that level for a bard that wants to group I’d suggest Unrest.