Question regarding Frontal Stun Immunity

[Killval]

In regards to the Ogre racial of Frontal Stun Immunity or FSI, my question is this. So say you are casting a spell with your back against the wall, channeling skill is maxed whatever, so none of that can be an interference with my question. What happens when you are casting as an Ogre and mid-cast a mob connects with a bash, I recognize you DO NOT take the stun effect, however, will the Ogre be interrupted of his spell cast regardless? Because if you do get interrupted, but just do not take the stun effect, then I'd say the usefulness of FSI is heavily mitigated by that fact, and regen would trump it, IMO. However, if you can actually continue to channel your cast through a mobs connected bash without receiving some sort of interrupt(outside of channeling skill & push), then I think it should be as heavily lauded as it is. I've never been able to find a distinct sure fire answer to this question. Any perspective on this from max level Ogre Shaman who can indeed confirm this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks = D (Please don't turn this into a BiS race pick for Shaman lol, that's been done to death, I'm just interested in a mechanics question regarding the FSI racial)

[gkmarino]

Correct FSI will allow you to keep casting so long as your player position doesn't get pushed too far away from the initial casting point and the hits you are receiving are to the front.

You can be tanking 4 dangerous NPCs at the same time and receive 4 bashes and still slow them one by one, so long as they aren't melee pushing you too far. AKA your back is against a corner or wall.

This benefit is lost upon using an illusion of any kind such as, bear form, skeleton illusion, etc.

[Killval]

Originally Posted by gkmarino [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Correct FSI will allow you to keep casting so long as your player position doesn't get pushed too far away from the initial casting point and the hits you are receiving are to the front.

You can be tanking 4 dangerous NPCs at the same time and receive 4 bashes and still slow them one by one, so long as they aren't melee pushing you too far. AKA your back is against a corner or wall.

This benefit is lost upon using an illusion of any kind such as, bear form, skeleton illusion, etc.

Okay then, yeah if it does indeed operate that way here on Project 1999, then I can see why it is such a highly regarded racial for sure. You know what I mean though if the FSI racial ONLY mitigated the stun effect and not the interrupt of the spell casting(outside of pushback/channeling) I wouldn't think it's that great at all.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Killval [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay then, yeah if it does indeed operate that way here on Project 1999, then I can see why it is such a highly regarded racial for sure. You know what I mean though if the FSI racial ONLY mitigated the stun effect and not the interrupt of the spell casting(outside of pushback/channeling) I wouldn't think it's that great at all.

I'm not sure it works that way. Back in classic there were three things that could potentially interrupt you: a stun(automatic interrupt), moved/being moved (the greater distance moved the greater the chance of interrupt), and just damage itself could interrupt your casting. However, it was pretty rare for you to be interrupt only because of taking melee damage.Not sure how it works on P99 though.

The main reason regen is somewhat "meh" for a shaman if you plan to play it at level 60 is that torpor makes regen almost irrelevant.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main reason regen is somewhat "meh" for a shaman if you plan to play it at level 60 is that torpor makes regen almost irrelevant.

Well, that and the fact that there's no way to get it without a significant XP penalty. The regen itself of course absolutely does help with leveling ... but just not enough to counterbalance the penalty.

In other words, when choosing Troll over Barbarian you're essentially trading a slightly longer path to 60 in exchange for getting to spend a smaller percentage of that path sitting on your butt.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In other words, when choosing Troll over Barbarian you're essentially trading a slightly longer path to 60 in exchange for getting to spend a smaller percentage of that path sitting on your butt.

correction you are choosing between this and this:

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[Lordgordon]

Dont try to justify choosing barbarian.

[Cen]

Originally Posted by Lordgordon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dont try to justify choosing barbarian.

Barbarians have a unique shaman racial no other races or classes can duplicate. Polar bear form. Nothing else matters past that

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Lordgordon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dont try to justify choosing barbarian.

I can and absolutely will justify choosing Barbarian. It is, without a doubt, from a purely logical and impartial standpoint, the best choice IF your goal is to get to 60 the fastest.

Now, nothing about what I just said was false, and yet I'll be the first to admit that Ogres are probably the uber-race for Shaman. Is that a contradiction?

Nope, because Ogres are the best at 60. They very likely take the longest to get there out of all the shaman races (more XP penalty than Barbarians with no regen to help), but as others have already mentioned, at 60 (with Torpor) regen really doesn't matter.

Thus, at 60 Ogres are the best because their ability (FSI) matters, whereas the other abilities (regen, faction, etc.) don't. But when it comes to getting to 60, Barbarians are the best ... with Trolls as a close second (plus, as I mentioned, they spend a smaller percentage of that time stuck on their butt meditating, so depending on your perspective that might make them better for leveling).

Meanwhile Iksar are just objectively inferior to Trolls IF you can get a JBB ... but if not they're objectively superior because they get more armor and are otherwise equivalent (plus they don't have the large race annoyance).

But also:

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barbarians have a unique shaman racial no other races or classes can duplicate. Polar bear form. Nothing else matters past that

[Killval]

ehh idk it all adds up honestly, leveling with regen is immense. Yeah Torpor certainly mitigates the usefulness sure, but it's still something even with Torpor, much more limited in its scope yes, but the 1000s of hours getting to 60 and acquiring Torpor I'd say regen is pretty handy = D