Miscellaneous: Something smells fishy in Erud's Crossing

[Jimjam]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Barren_Flounder
Look on the item ID on this thing - it is way out of timeline, no?
https://eqdb.net/item/detail/22761

Currently it is in the catch pool for Erud's Crossing (and maybe Erudin or S Qeynos? I was fishing a while on that boat).

Please delete this unclassic filth (and fix the fishing tables in the needful zones).

Thankyoubye.

[Zuranthium]

Trying to rob people of their fishy meals right after the food change got put in. What a pirate.

[nilbog]

Here is a link from 2001 listing the fish, so it's at least in the timeline.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010410...shing_zone.htm

If anyone wants to otherwise review a list of fish to check if they are not classic:

10lb Fetid Bass,11lb Fetid Bass,12lb Fetid Bass,13lb Fetid Bass,14lb Fetid Bass,15lb Fetid Bass,16lb Fetid Bass,17lb Fetid Bass,2lb Fetid Bass,3lb Fetid Bass,4lb Fetid Bass,5lb Fetid Bass,6lb Fetid Bass,7lb Fetid Bass,8lb Fetid Bass,9lb Fetid Bass,A Black Cod Card,A Blue Cod Card,A Red Cod Card,A White Cod Card,Barren Flounder,Boar Carp,Cauldron Trout,Cave Guppy,Chokai Bass,Clockwork Koi,Cobalt Cod,Crystalline Cave Fish,Danak Grouper,Despair Chub,Dragon Bay Snapper,Evergreen Salmon,Fogwater Trout,Frosty Cave Trout,Giant Fetid Bass,Gigantic Fetid Bass,Greengill Salmon,Grotto Bluegill,Gunthak Mackerel,Hatch Dace,Highland Pike,Hound Pike,Humongous Fetid Bass,Iceclad Cutlassfish,Ikfish,Kedge Carp,Kerra Catfish,Koada Cichlid,Krup Guppy,Kunzar Koi,Large Fetid Bass,Pine Cichlid,Rathe Muskie,Red Roughy,Rujarkian Chub,Ry`Gorrian Toothfish,Salt Minnow,Saltwater Seaweed,Salty Whitefish,Sewer Catfish,Sponge Mushroom,Stonefish,Thullian Mudskipper,Thunder Salmon,Timorous Tuna,tiny Fetid Bass,Weary Wrass,Wulf Fish

[Ennewi]

Jimjam Swimswam

[CrazyPro]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a link from 2001 listing the fish, so it's at least in the timeline.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010410...shing_zone.htm

If anyone wants to otherwise review a list of fish to check if they are not classic:

I don't think Weary Wrass are obtainable on P99, unless it's been fixed already.

[Passenger]

From Nilbog's link we see mention of a Bloodfin Trout fished from the Lake of Ill Omen. That one is missing from the P99 database query.

- https://web.archive.org/web/20010628....html?skill=15

RE: Exotic Fish
By: mymaku
Posted @ Thu, Mar 29th 11:24 PM [2001]

Reeled in a ton of bloodfin trouts in Lake of Ill Omen; they sold for a little over two times as much as fresh fish.

- https://web.archive.org/web/20010628...picID=18.topic

Tellemar
(4/3/01 10:12:07 pm)
Re: New Fish Found

Some of these, (like the gunthak makeral) have been around for a while, but most are new. Also, A new fish i just caught in the Lake of Ill Omen is the bloodfin trout, sells for 4.5 silver each to vendors with 70 charisma, is edible and i caught them every time with a skill of around 140 (can't remember exactly).

It was apparently removed from the lake in summer 2002, but should be fishable in P99's timeline.

Zone			items reeled in
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Lake of Ill Omen	none (Bloodfin Trout used to be available in this zone, but now appear to be extinct)
...

A fair number of the zone-specific fish were added in Mar2001, a few others in Sept2000. Do any have era flags set?

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The Salt Minnow shouldn't be fishable on P99. It's part of the long-broken Hollow Skull/Skull of Torment quest.

- https://web.archive.org/web/20030817...picID=88.topic

Feninie
(5/19/03 3:21 am)
The Hollow skull - new thread

For old discussion please see this thread:

pub8.ezboard.com/foldunso...D=24.topic


Also see

everquest.allakhazam.com/...quest=2177


The Tower Cook's Head (aka The Hollow Skull)

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Salt minnow was not in game for a long time, however popped up on test early May 2003 ( mboards.eqtraders.com/php...3057#53057 )


The May 14 2003 patch included this info, at this time Salt Minnow was thought to have entered the live servers.

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- https://web.archive.org/web/20031125...art=21&stop=40

vhiash
(6/11/03 1:45 pm)
Salt Minnow

Was fishing today (Wed June 11, 2003) in East Cabilis for the catfish... Also got a salt minnow (live on Firiona Vie). Go to it peeps =)

Zorraak
(6/11/03 4:04 pm)
Re: Salt Minnow

I can confirm that Salt Minnows are live - I caught two of them on E'Ci today after the patch.

I already had some Zombie Skin and a Bixie Honeycomb ... however the combination of:

Zombie Skin
Zombie Skin
Honeycomb
Salt Minnow

was a DNC in the Cabilis oven. I'm still looking for "Zombie Flesh" ... anyone ever seen it?

Zorraak - 63 Warlock - E'Ci

[nilbog]

Our per-zone fishing implementation currently has no functionality for 'rule-basing' eras. I'll work on getting this added.

Itemizing fish per zone (and rules) would probably be a good crowd source/research project due to the limited scope.

[Jimjam]

Shame on me. Thanks Nilbog!

[Jimjam]

The above post about fishing using an ice hole in the tundra reminds me of a p99 bug - you can fish on any of the floe, you don’t need to use a hole in the ice. According to the above that isn’t right. Holes only for fishing!*


*and presumably that little beach in the tunnel too.

[Passenger]

I've not seen mention of particular fish/items having a specific skill requirement to catch.

Shadaria was able to catch all of the items in Ocean of Tears starting from no skill using 40 bait. I don't how many skill-ups they gained in 40 casts, but it probably wasn't many (maybe 4-5 at most?). They do mention experimenting with lures which can raise your fishing skill, but had they skilled up making a bunch of lures beforehand, they could have fished with those instead of buying the bait.

EverQuestsDaBest also mentions catching a Timorous Tuna, the special catch in Timorous Deep, by skill level 9.

- https://web.archive.org/web/20040117...picID=42.topic

Albavar
(4/20/01 5:27 am)
Catching specialty fish with a 14 skill!

Last night I went fishing to replace my plummeting supply of muffins. At the docks of Erudin I caught fresh fish as one would expect. However, when I went fishing next to the bridge over the river in Toxx, I caught nothing but Greengill Salmon. No daggers, sandals, or scales, just salmon. The weird thing is my skill went from (14) to (15) in this time. I thought you could only catch those other fish with over (100) skill.

/shrug

Thought fishers might like to be notified. Oh, and this happened on Xev.

mcdermit
(4/20/01 7:49 am)
Re: Catching specialty fish with a 14 skill!

Greengill Salmon is the standard fish in Tox; I've never caught anything else there at any level of skill. Many zones now give you some named fish instead of Fresh Fish. Kinda makes it hard to make those Fish Rolls while adventuring [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zwobu <Trade Foundation> Innoruuk

Out-of-era, but in-line with the above accounts:

- https://web.archive.org/web/20031205...icID=354.topic

Kindertan
(10/23/02 8:52 pm)
43 in Fishing

Ok I have a 43 in fishing...I've caught my share of rusty daggers, sandles, fresh fish, etc. But I have yet to ever catch a named fish. Is my skill too low?

Niami DenMother
(10/23/02 9:34 pm)
Re: 43 in Fishing

You don't state what zone you were fishing in. Named fish are only in certain zones, as per the list at the following link:

www.eqtraders.com/locatio...g_zone.htm

Kindertan
(10/23/02 9:37 pm)
Re: 43 in Fishing

I've fished all over the place :b Today I was fishing in BB, where I think stonefish are suppose to be caught.

xaanru
(11/6/02 3:27 pm)
Re: 43 in Fishing

Nope, I caught gunthak mackerel, and saltwater seaweed (which was my goal) in OOt when I only had 10 skill. As a human smith, let me add that my skill has quickly progressed into the 180 range.

Zyrtryx Conjureblade
(11/6/02 7:29 pm)
Re: 43 in Fishing

I caught at least 6 saltwater seaweeds while sitting on the docks on the island in OOT where the tackleboxes and hooks are sold, and my Magician had a Fishing skill of around 20 (possibly less) at the time. Since they're No Drop, I was forced to destroy all of them.

His Fishing skill is up to 85 atm, and the only fish (other than Fresh Fish) that he has caught are Gunthak Mackerel. (The only places he's fished that have other catchable fish are Butcherblock and Felwithe, though)

Troodon
(11/26/02 4:55 pm)
Re: 43 in Fishing

It seems that your fishing skill only effects how often you catch something... not what you can catch. Someone who went into PoV to catch me a valorian discus went in with 0 skill and had no problems catching it, but it took him an hour to get one (had 18 skill when he caught one). Higher fishing skill speeds up the process of getting a special fish, but there's no minimum skill to catch them.

- https://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/for...-specific-fish

Skill lvl for catching zone specific fish
01-13-2003, 10:30 PM

Hello all,

Was wondering if you have to have a certain skill level to catch the zone specific fish. I have heard that you have to have 100 sill, but i caught a Pince Cichlid in Surefall with 66 skill.

Thanks in advance for any info

Velurian
01-15-2003, 02:12 PM

To all appearances, there is no minimum skill level for catching the zone specials, at least not as a group -- I caught some myself with fishing less than 50, and have seen reports of some caught much lower than that.

That said, it's possible that *certain* zone-specific fish actually require a minimum fishing level; I don't think that's been convincingly established, and I don't remember seeing any official word from anyone at SOE.

Fuelman
01-23-2003, 04:43 PM

Cant be too much skill involved, i caught a Stone Fish in Butcherblock with a skill of 26 and an ordinary pole and bait

Kamdarra Trueweave
01-24-2003, 08:04 PM

As a tailor, I've taken several friends and guildmates with me to fish for Cobalt Cod in Cobalt Scar. At least a few of these had never fished before in their (EQ) lives and still managed to catch Cod and Dragonbay Snapper.

So, at least in CS, there is no minimum level required.

Also, as alluded to in the comments from Albavar and mcdermit, it appears the special fish introduced in the Sept2000 and Mar2001 fishing expansions actually replaced the Fresh Fish on the table. This seems to have lasted until the Nov. 7, 2001 patch. Do you want me to collect what I've found on this, Nilbog, or do you want to leave it as is?