Ranger Geo Parsing (many weapons)

[Snaggles]

This is a continuation of this post which I figured should be organized as a new thread:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=328

I did a lot more Geonid killing in WL trying to keep the stats as close as possible for comparison sake. No buffs like DS or Call of Fire which would mess with the parse. No proccing Avatar either since the upkeep is annoying. Lastly, when/if the geo ran I would turn to face it. Most the ones I fought were still blue but I wasn’t only killing blues. I did not fight shams intentionally but seems one snuck in below which I labeled. Ideally I would have done more than 5-10 fights per set, tried with and without Avatar, or even found a target that isn't a low/mid 40's npc since I do not think this will scale to raid mobs. That said...it's a pretty controlled test. Sorry again about the formatting.

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.p...elo_Blue:Blerv

Baton of Flame/Claw of Lightning 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
237 STR, 1352 Attack Power, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Total=Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
7778=84=92=2159
7887=82=96=1251
7358=89=84=2280
7491=91=82=1700
7692=85=90=1919
7933=93=85=2535
7892=89=88=2886
7091=78=90=1364
7548=83=90=1837

Total Damage 75763
Total Time 852
Average DPS 88
Total Damage Taken 19451

Meljeldin 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
239 STR, 1353 Attack Power, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
7964=106=75=2456
7302=79=92=1891
7544=91=82=2181
7563=89=85=1700
7195=70=102=1138
7744=83=93=1802
7853=99=79=2548
7967=86=92=1835
7409=73=101=2759
7544=96=78=1158

Total Damage 76085
Total Time 873
Average DPS 87
Total Damage Taken 19,468


Baton of Flame and Swiftwind 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
234 STR, 1389 Attack Power, 151 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo=7543=109=69=2247
geo=7307=85=85=1130
geo=7512=89=84=1892
geo=7362=91=80=1520
geo=7774=94=82=1723
geo=7507=99=76=1759
geo=7318=80=91=2598
geo=7939=95=83=2905
geo=7708=85=90=1599
geo=7920=103=76=1690

Total Damage 83,810
Total Time 1031
Average DPS 81

Essence Mace and Silver Whip of Rage 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
227 STR, 1342 Attack Power, 154 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo sham=7356=85=86=1261
geo=7711=95=81=1283
geo=7715=95=81=1579
geo=7401=88=84=1341
geo=7721=103=74=2185
geo=7088=82=86=1575
geo=7911=99=79=2235
geo=7080=80=88=1720
geo=7937=82=82=2232
geo=7108=89=79=1533
geo=7599=106=71=1775

Total Damage 90,704
Total Time 1148
Average DPS 79

Silver Whip of Rage and Swiftwind 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
234 STR, 1389 Attack Power, 151 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo=7129=90=79=1010
geo=7562=101=74=906
geo=7742=105=73=1039
geo=7920=107=74=1705
geo=7518=101=74=1469
geo=7941=105=75=1595
geo=7506=100=75=978
geo=7367=92=80=2161
geo=7970=111=71=2086
geo=7508=101=74=1699

Total Damage 76,163
Total Time 1017
Average DPS 74

Earthcaller & Silver Whip of Rage /Silver Whip of Rage & Claw of Lightning on slow
No DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
244 initial STR*, 1357 Attack Power, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)
*I forgot to get the swapped stats

Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
6923=96=72=1223
7232=94=76=548
7276=96=75=2026
7184=92=78=836
7200=91=79=1053
7547=90=83=1330
7074=114=62=993
7903=120=65=1618
7165=97=73=1196
Total Damage 72722
Total Time 995
Average DPS 73
Total Damage Taken 11994

Earthcaller and Swiftwind 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
249 STR, 1403 Attack Power, 161 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo 7323=107=68=1802
geo 7248=117=61=1971
geo 7761=101=76=1719
geo 7318=117=62=1690
geo 7723=122=63=2202

Total Damage 37,373
Total Time 570
Average DPS 65

Swarmcaller 100%, no DS, no Avatar, no Call of Fire etc
Greater Wolf Form, SoN, CoTP, one AoB, Storm Strength
227 STR, 1342 Attack Power, 154 Dex, 91% Haste (Dragon gloves + Sky cloak)

Mob=Total Dmg=Time=DPS=Dmg to PC
geo 7766=143=54=1900
geo 7668=161=47=2548
geo 7843=164=47=1909
geo 7399=139=53=1551
geo=7171=115=62=1714

Total Damage 37,847
Total Time 726.
Average DPS 52

[Vexenu]

The "Total Damage Taken" value is not provided for all of the weapon combos.

So at a glance it looks like the "max survivability" weapon combo of Earthcaller/Silver Whip provides 84% of the DPS of the "max DPS" weapons, while allowing the player to take only 62% of the damage.

Definitely supports the contention that EC/SW is the superior choice for any sort of solo sustained killing.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The "Total Damage Taken" value is not provided for all of the weapon combos.

So at a glance it looks like the "max survivability" weapon combo of Earthcaller/Silver Whip provides 84% of the DPS of the "max DPS" weapons, while allowing the player to take only 62% of the damage.

Definitely supports the contention that EC/SW is the superior choice for any sort of solo sustained killing.

Yea I didn’t keep noting the damage taken summary. As I recall, that other thread was debating if you take more damage slowing and swapping or using a better ratio weapon(s). This second batch was done very late, the lack of consistency is annoying in this morning.

Slowing is definitely the sustainable route. It wasn’t even that rough soloing with a Swarmcaller which is just crummy dps.

The EC/Rune whip was the only set which I slowed and then swapped in the Claw of Lightning and main handed the whip. I might try a set of just EC/Whip 100% the time. The dps wouldn’t be nearly as high.

[kjs86z2]

love seeing rune whip still out there being BiS for any situation where dmg taken is a thing

kinda surprised the top 2 (dw vs 2 hand) had basically the exact same dmg taken....youd think it would be a lot less with 2H

[Belambic]

Luckily, BIS 2H weapons have much higher damage than 1H which helps compensate for the delay differences.

[Crede]

So all those people who say to skip epics and just get the big 2hnder with swarmcaller it should really be get earthcaller as soon as possible along with the whip because the swiftwind is really what’s holding you back.

[bcbrown]

Cool, thanks for doing this. Grats on the Essence Mace! Are you including the proc in the damage parse? It's a lifetap so it's also healing you, right?

Meljeldin
Total Damage 76085
Total Time 873
Average DPS 87
Total Damage Taken 19468

Earthcaller & Silver Whip of Rage /Silver Whip of Rage & Claw of Lightning on slow
Total Damage 72722
Total Time 995
Average DPS 73
Total Damage Taken 11994

So Meljeldin takes 2 minutes less time for 10 kills, but you take 7474 more damage. 7 hp sitting + 10 for chloro and 15 for fungi gives 32 hp/tick and 21 mana/tick. 20 ticks means you'll recover 640 hp and 420 mana, which when used for Greater Healing results in a total 1396 hp recovered. DW seems clearly better in this scenario.

Qualitatively, which one felt the smoothest or most pleasant?

[Snaggles]

Thanks! I really am liking the Essence Mace; yea it’s a 80pt tap but is magic based -200 check like a typical life tap. Both it and the BoF have DD’s which I’m factoring in with the parses. In most cases I was 145-165 Dex so those might perform better if I had capped from Avatar or a sham buff. If the mob resists those spells though it certainly tips the scale to something like a Meljeldin.

Of the options I’d say the Earthcaller and offhand Silver Whip or the EM/Silver Whip felt the most comfortable. In each situation I feel the offhand whip is a great slot fill since it’s doing decent DPS and every proc feels substantial. That and I would often start each next fight with the rune live since it would often proc on a fleeing mob.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So all those people who say to skip epics and just get the big 2hnder with swarmcaller it should really be get earthcaller as soon as possible along with the whip because the swiftwind is really what’s holding you back.

Swarmcaller is a junk ratio and swapping is annoying, EC is a good ranger life goal for QOL. Swiftwind is an easy source of 40% haste and the only droppable OH that beats its ratio is BOC by a measly 5% so considering haste they're basically the same. If you can get SW you're a MQ away from EC. I've never seen anyone advocate hanging onto SW. Unless you can get your hands on both 41% worn and a better OH, epics combo remains the best option for a lot of people.

Swarmcaller could work with a meljeldin if for some reason you never solo and never wanted fo bother with epics but you're denying yourself some options.



Good work snaggles! Always interesting to see parses.

[kjs86z2]

swarmcaller is just budget slow til epic and 100% worth it to open with every mob if solo