Celestial Fists + Robe of the Whistling Fists

[TheBlob]

I have seen many epic monks with a Robe of the Whistling Fists and, from my understanding (never completed the monk epic), the robe isn't given back during epic and one would need to go through the trouble of doing the quest again to have an additional robe.

Is there a significant advantage to having the robe in addition to the epic? The haste shouldn't stack and the robe gives less HP than the Skyshrine chest piece. Is it for the STR buff (even if the haste doesn't stack, does the robe buff stick even with the epic buff)?

Or is it only a fashion choice or quest flex (and god knows I am all for fashion/quest flexes)?

[Mortdecai99]

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[Snaggles]

Str and AC stack. Fashion and having one more junk buff (it will flash the buff but not stack the haste) seems handy.

I only have a 50 monk but can see eventually re-questing the robe. Unless you have a lot of BiS it is likely you will be under 255 str without help from a shaman, Druid, Ranger, or bard. 33 str is about 30 attack so that’s 3 aura of battles or 3/4ths of CoTP. If you are eeking performance out of a dps class being able to max Str is always a good thing.

[TheBlob]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Str and AC stack. Fashion and having one more junk buff (it will flash the buff but not stack the haste) seems handy.

I only have a 50 monk but can see eventually re-questing the robe. Unless you have a lot of BiS it is likely you will be under 255 str without help from a shaman, Druid, Ranger, or bard. 33 str is about 30 attack so that’s 3 aura of battles or 3/4ths of CoTP. If you are eeking performance out of a dps class being able to max Str is always a good thing.

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

The main issue with Robe is you have to equip it to click it. Since it is chest slot, that means unequiping your Fungi Tunic. Fungi Tunic is probably going to be better while you are soloing than the extra AC and STR from the Robe Buff. I can see Robe being better in a scenario where you are DPSing in a group, and not really taking damage.

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only have a 50 monk but can see eventually re-questing the robe. Unless you have a lot of BiS it is likely you will be under 255 str without help from a shaman, Druid, Ranger, or bard. 33 str is about 30 attack so that’s 3 aura of battles or 3/4ths of CoTP. If you are eeking performance out of a dps class being able to max Str is always a good thing.

The conversion rate on STR isn't that good sadly. The calculation looks like this:

((STR * 2) - 150) / 3.

At 100 STR: ((100 * 2) - 150) / 3 = 16.667
At 130 STR: ((130 * 2) - 150) / 3 = 36.666
At 160 STR: ((160 * 2) - 150) / 3 = 56.666

You gain the equivalent of ~20 Worn ATK per 30 STR.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You can obviously swap Robe in to click it, and then swap back to Fungi every 18 seconds. But remember that Monks can fistweave as well. If you are the type of player to mim/max their combat by swapping in Robe, you are probably fistweaving as well.

So the question simply becomes:

Is 30 STR and 10 AC worth the periodic loss of Fungi Tunic ticks and fistweaving DPS while robe swapping?

My guess is yes if you are doing it well. If you are being kind of lazy about it, maybe not. While I do sometimes fistweave on harder mobs, I never liked swapping Robe in and out while I had it.

[Snaggles]

20 attack is still 20 attack. It’s not an issue with a primal (blunts being the most sought after) or certain slot fills but I’d argue any dps class that could be doing a bit more (within reason of sanity), should be trying to. I wouldn’t likely define that as a robe swap every few ticks if you are actively focusing on the rest of the game…I’d pick the chest piece that’s most helpful.

The other side of the coin is that most of the benefit seems a situation where you can’t at least get a Focus. That might mainly solo or odd little low-man crews. Then again, fashionquest is the end game and IMHO this robe looks great.

[Crede]

It’s really not hard to get it, especially if you have some friends to help you kill bro z for the rotlc. Str buff is a lot, solid fashion. Was a no brainer for me. With that being said if you plan to get an avatar weapon rather quickly then I’d probably just skip it.