For delusional people that actually think the Null resist system benefits casters

[MakeYouMad]

How Null PvP system actually works in reality:

Scenario

You're a random, idiot caster standing outside Guk looking for some leet PvP action. A paladin runs up and starts to come at you bro.

He starts swinging at you with a sword and casting root in between every swing. He's now basically chain rooting you to the ground while attacking so you try to root him back and hope one of his resists so you can get out of range.

Here's your first problem, through the course of this fight, you're both going to be rooted next to each other a large percent of the time because he's spamming it. None of his casts are being interrupted as he melees you while casting. Your casts on the other hand are constantly being interrupted by melee hits, bash, and stun spells. Stun never landed on EQ live, but on here, if he cycles bash and stun right, you're barely gonna get off any casts.

If you manage to channel some long cast time, damage spell, he casts greater heal on himself and all the damage vaporizes. Your HP is now getting low, your mana is going down, he's at full HP again, and you're still chain rooted to the ground next to him.

You can see where this is going. Even if you spam damage spells, get lucky and channel them all, and have 0 resists on any of them, his Gheals will probably keep him up anyway. If not, he can just LoH but it probably won't be needed.

The bottom line is that in real EQ PvP, a good paladin was pretty hard for a caster to kill since they can heal themselves extremely well. The plus side was that they weren't exactly great at killing you either.

The TZVZ system is completely different, the paladin is even harder to kill because you channel less spells against him, and he's much more dangerous to you due to spamming root in between every swing to immobilize you.

There is no benefit to balance from this system. It just randomly shuffles the balance deck around and introduces lots of lopsided situations like the one listed above. They even went in an made custom changes to let casters channel spells easier to compensate. How can you rationalize making additional changes like that on a classic, non-custom PvP server?

[Mardur]

We need to start banning people who have obviously never PvPed in EQ.

[Darwoth]

need to keep it classic or the server will be another shortlived sack of shit like all the other "custom" servers.

[Pudge]

O NO, im getting ROOTED, halp!

if i use my pumice, then i will get interrupted by the BASH! - o wait, no, never mind, im not getting bashed because it's a paladin swinging in 2 hander..

but but i will get interrupted by the MELEE SWINGS.. o wait, never mind im rooted so i can't get interrupted by melee push back either.

the STUNS hes casting! OH!..... oh but.. hrm, wait is this guy actually damaging me or just chain casting root and stun?

i can't shadowstep, gate, pumice, DA, or cast ANYTHING!


HAALP!

[MakeYouMad]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if i use my pumice, then i will get interrupted by the BASH! - o wait, no, never mind, im not getting bashed because it's a paladin swinging in 2 hander..

That guy Prime on TZVZ was running around swinging a 2h, then using a 3rd party program to swap in shield for bash after the swing. Regardless, paladins do use 1h's like ghoulbane, that one 1h from chardok, and their 2h epic also allows them to bash without a shield.

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but but i will get interrupted by the MELEE SWINGS.. o wait, never mind im rooted so i can't get interrupted by melee push back either.

You're not rooted 100% of the time due to resists so you're still being interrupted. Root just pops on and off continuously as they spam it between 2h swings.

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the STUNS hes casting! OH!..... oh but.. hrm, wait is this guy actually damaging me or just chain casting root and stun?

Nice try at playing stupid. You know damn well hybrids can cast in between swings without losing DPS.

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i can't shadowstep, gate, pumice, DA, or cast ANYTHING!

1) Shadowstep is only on 2 caster classes

2) Channeling gate while being hit is much harder on EQ live than VZTZ but you wouldn't know that because you only play on retarded PvP servers where things like interrupts are capped at 50%

Nice try at being a cheerleader for bogus VZTZ game mechanics though.

[Bazia]

MakeYouMad = Wehrmacht?

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[Sorath]

truth does lie in this thread
almost like a thick crust on a rather tight vagina
deep within the crust lies the answers
but who is willing to eat the crust?
discuss...

[mitic]

why using root as a paladin when there is flash of light?

[Sorath]

FLASH OF LIGHTS ROOT FLASH OF LIGHTS OP PALADIN OP NERF INC NERF THE PALLAY THE LIGHBRINGER NERF IT NOW -10405005I9944444 ...99384U7583939I3

[Lovely]

Fuck me THIS SEEMS AWESOME IM ROLLING PALADIN ASAPPP!