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Old 10-22-2011, 02:35 AM
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Default Custom PVP thoughts and potential problems.

Instead of replying on the other thread that Rogean responded with the quote I'm about to put up, I decided to make a fresh thread to address this issue that seems to be at the fore front of the PvP server.

Before I begin I want to say that none of this is personal. Null really seems to be a pretty cool guy and I think we would be best pals IRL if we met. The same with Rogean and company though I'm sure he would get tired of my nagging computer questions I would hound him with every day. We all appreciate your time and effort in giving us the opportunity to relive our wasted youth that we spent in the EQ world. Now for the main subject:

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Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
What's funny is that you guys seem to think we were going to strictly adhere to 'classic' for the pvp server. On the contrary we would like to make it somewhat interesting and fun for everyone. Call it Custom Classic if you want, I don't give a shit.
This is fine but I thought I would point out some things that could potentially be problematic in the future if you continue to go with the custom route.

If you are going with the custom content could you please change the name of the server to something like "Classic Project 1999 content with custom balanced PvP" or something to that effect? If people see "Classic PVP" in the title, that is what they are going to expect. Expectations and first impressions are everything. If someone comes in expecting classic PVP they are going to be disappointed and will leave.

You possibly create a shit-storm when you throw out the 'but that is classic' rebuttal. You think people whine now? It will be 10x worse when people get on and start bitching that their class sucks... this other class is way OP, reduce this class's damage, up this classes damage. It will get really bad. What will be next? Diminishing returns? Wow is a good example of what happens when you try to perfectly balance pvp between all classes and make CC spells viable and not easily resisted. Every class has some stun/fear/root/snare. EQ is all about defined class roles which no other MMO has anymore. Again, if you stay with classic, then you can say "that is classic" and leave it up to that person to do the research and prove otherwise.
I feel that this is the main issue I struggle with. I think you could possibly be setting yourself up for a lot of headaches. I don't want you guys getting frustrated to the point of just saying "fuck it".

Another argument was going to be how custom pvp servers fail. After some thought I decided that the custom content and items were what really sucked about the other failed pvp servers, so I will just leave that one alone.

TL;DR summary: People know classic. People love classic. That is the whole point you guys created the P99 server and why it has been so successful. Don't open yourself up to more of a headache by going outside the lines of your original classic agenda.

Also, can we please have an intelligent discussion about this without all the douchebaggery name-calling? Remember, this isn't RnF.
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