Spells: Brusco`s Boastful Bellow Broken!

xblade724 · #1 12-07-2011, 01:59 AM

Brusco`s Boastful Bellow (lvl 12 bard DD) is supposed to offer significant knockback! There is NO knockback at all!

This is the main reason this was useful in pvp -- in fact, probably our only useful pvp song until higher lvls ..

Please fix this ASAP, it's very important. It used to knockback enough to interrupt spells 100% from the movement it knocks you

EDIT: LUCY SOURCE BELOW!!
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http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...04&setcookie=1
"Knockback: 1 [ft]"

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Darksinga · #2 12-07-2011, 05:57 AM

I think the knockback is still there but it's so insignificant that it won't make a difference in pvp.

I was on a ZL and a bard casted the dd on me and I zoned. So literally it moves you .1 feet... I remember it being a lot bigger on live, but my "iirc's" dont really matter much, I just know the knockback on this is very very small atm.

xblade724 · #3 12-07-2011, 08:04 AM

Yes -- the knockback on live classic was very dramatic. It's the entire reason I've been looking forward to 12 since it interrupts spells and doesnt allow people to hide behind the bank with me around in kelethin. Sorta destroyed my hopes and dreams. Please fix the knockback that was in classic eq

Avatarcat · #4 12-07-2011, 09:11 AM

Would love to see this fixed as well...I have a feeling there are going to be all kinds of little things that are going to effect pvp negatively. We just havn't found em yet=(

xblade724 · #5 12-07-2011, 11:29 PM

Bump for great justice! This is the soul of a pvp bard! Should be an easy fix (I hope)

Slave · #6 12-08-2011, 03:39 AM

I can't believe I'm about to say this:

This song did have about a .5'-1' knockback component. However, it did not unfailingly interrupt spells in PvP, at least by Kunark.

What we have on Blue99, anyway, is a huge knockback-interrupting-spells component. I'm fairly certain that code is also on R99, meaning that if this song was updated to act in a Classic manner, the code that was put in for knockback-interrupts would make it OVERpowered, because it would do so every time.

What we need is for this song to have a base chance to interrupt spells of around 50%.

xblade724 · #7 12-09-2011, 06:17 AM

Absolutely not -- bards are underpowered as hell at lower lvls when it's actually useful. It's really all we got.

Yes, it's significant knockback ... and the chance to interrupt spells should be the same as any knockback spell. You can easily avoid this by standing against a wall, especially in a corner. Or if you just resist the spell in general. There are countless alternatives to preventing this.

While you guys have pets stronger than warriors with constant root + dd's, we have our little 6 dmg DD with some knockback.

It was classic and should be 100% as intended. Bump for knockback fix.

To clarify, it is not a stun spell interrupt, it is merely a movement interrupt

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I am a level 12 bard and you know what I can do ? I can't use my only damage song because it's an AE and hits extra mobs, group members .. oh wait! I have my lvl 12 that does..... oh what, 6 dmg in pvp if they don't resist? Oh wait! Let me use my haste song for my weapon that does not nearly as much dmg as any other class .. hrm..

This is classic. We need this.

xblade724 · #8 12-09-2011, 07:36 PM

SOURCE:
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...04&setcookie=1
"Knockback: 1 [ft]"

Found the source on Lucy! Added this to OP

Truth · #9 12-09-2011, 08:13 PM

there is a knockback on this, but good luck getting it to interrupt shit with these generous channelling rules fails off around ~15 and completely worthless after ~20 id reckon

Lazortag · #10 12-09-2011, 08:56 PM

I seem to be doing just fine as a Bard.

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bards were the shit even solo pk's. here, they are shit.

...I can still easily kill people solo, and have. A couple of small bugs doesn't make them "shit". Think of how much worse Bards are on every other emu server. My hunch is that you just don't know how to play a Bard. Here's a hint: if you get rooted, use the spell you got at level 22. Oh, you're not level 22 yet? Big surprise there.

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There seems to be a lot of nerfs for bards while keeping the OP classes remaining OP.

A "nerf" implies that it's intentional. Find me another server where Bards work the way you expect them to. You don't control what the devs do with their time, stop flinging accusations at them when they don't fix minor bugs.

Bards are easily one of the most powerful classes on this server even with them not being 100% classic. You realize that some of the bard-related bugs favor Bards too, right? Like our invis song giving See Invis also. Or like our ae mez being ridiculously overpowered and not having a secondary resist check. Stop bitching and start being helpful.